degrees

[mackem 29,214]

LOL Can you get me one

I have a mate who got his TEFL but still couldnt get a decent paying job,I think he was on the equivalent of £10 a hour,he got a counterfeit degree,distorted the truth slightly on his CV and is now on £25 an hour teaching in the sun.

[rob190364 2,594]

I've got quite a high level of education in business, got a job dealing with overseas markets and left after less than two years because even though I quite liked the job and the overseas contacts I dealt with I couldn't stand the pretentious pricks I used to work alongside, all the wanabee gordon gechos, couldn't stand sitting in meeting rooms for hours on end and the need to go to cocktail bars and places like that to talk about economics when really what I wanted to do was to go and get on the stella at the local boozer. I've seen people with a top class degree, on £100k per year who not only know f'ck all about real life but actually don't have a clue when it comes to the subject that they're educated in! mainly because you can know all the theory in the world, if you're lacking common sense and the ability to apply theory to real life then you become a joke......admittedly a highly paid joke but you lose respect of anyone you deal with who has a bit of nouse because they can see straight through you. To be really successful you need education (usually), but also a whole host of other traits, most of which can't be taught. I've rather have all those other traits without the education, than education without common sense, competence, the ability to relate to people etc. etc. etc.

[poacher3161 1,766]

This is the only degree i ever got awarded to me on behalf of family and freinds lol.

[rob190364 2,594]

I've got quite a high level of education in business, got a job dealing with overseas markets and left after less than two years because even though I quite liked the job and the overseas contacts I dealt with I couldn't stand the pretentious pricks I used to work alongside, all the wanabee gordon gechos, couldn't stand sitting in meeting rooms for hours on end and the need to go to cocktail bars and places like that to talk about economics when really what I wanted to do was to go and get on the stella at the local boozer. I've seen people with a top class degree, on £100k per year who not only know f'ck all about real life but actually don't have a clue when it comes to the subject that they're educated in! mainly because you can know all the theory in the world, if you're lacking common sense and the ability to apply theory to real life then you become a joke......admittedly a highly paid joke but you lose respect of anyone you deal with who has a bit of nouse because they can see straight through you. To be really successful you need education (usually), but also a whole host of other traits, most of which can't be taught. I've rather have all those other traits without the education, than education without common sense, competence, the ability to relate to people etc. etc. etc.

just to correct myself, those other traits can usually be taught, they can be taught by a normal upbringing, you can pick them up in everyday life by learning from mistakes, mixing with normal every day people, basically living a normal life. 9 out of 10 times these cocks that I'm talking about have come from well off families, have gone to a uni where they're molly coddled and brainwashed into thinking that after leaving they'll be fast tracked into management and will have a team of people doing the work for them by the time they're 30 (annoyingly they're right half the time!), don't actually start work until they're 25, and the nearest they've come got to a fight is when they were arguing with their best friend cuthbert about who had pinkest salmon in their sandwiches at playschool..........while the rest of us were eating jam butties on mighty white and twatting someone because they support Liverpool and therefore deserve to be twatted

[Guest thebigdog]

I've got quite a high level of education in business, got a job dealing with overseas markets and left after less than two years because even though I quite liked the job and the overseas contacts I dealt with I couldn't stand the pretentious pricks I used to work alongside, all the wanabee gordon gechos, couldn't stand sitting in meeting rooms for hours on end and the need to go to cocktail bars and places like that to talk about economics when really what I wanted to do was to go and get on the stella at the local boozer. I've seen people with a top class degree, on £100k per year who not only know f'ck all about real life but actually don't have a clue when it comes to the subject that they're educated in! mainly because you can know all the theory in the world, if you're lacking common sense and the ability to apply theory to real life then you become a joke......admittedly a highly paid joke but you lose respect of anyone you deal with who has a bit of nouse because they can see straight through you. To be really successful you need education (usually), but also a whole host of other traits, most of which can't be taught. I've rather have all those other traits without the education, than education without common sense, competence, the ability to relate to people etc. etc. etc.

just to correct myself, those other traits can usually be taught, they can be taught by a normal upbringing, you can pick them up in everyday life by learning from mistakes, mixing with normal every day people, basically living a normal life. 9 out of 10 times these cocks that I'm talking about have come from well off families, have gone to a uni where they're molly coddled and brainwashed into thinking that after leaving they'll be fast tracked into management and will have a team of people doing the work for them by the time they're 30 (annoyingly they're right half the time!), don't actually start work until they're 25, and the nearest they've come got to a fight is when they were arguing with their best friend cuthbert about who had pinkest salmon in their sandwiches at playschool..........while the rest of us were eating jam butties on mighty white and twatting someone because they support Liverpool and therefore deserve to be twatted

 

:laugh:

[poacher3161 1,766]

I've got quite a high level of education in business, got a job dealing with overseas markets and left after less than two years because even though I quite liked the job and the overseas contacts I dealt with I couldn't stand the pretentious pricks I used to work alongside, all the wanabee gordon gechos, couldn't stand sitting in meeting rooms for hours on end and the need to go to cocktail bars and places like that to talk about economics when really what I wanted to do was to go and get on the stella at the local boozer. I've seen people with a top class degree, on £100k per year who not only know f'ck all about real life but actually don't have a clue when it comes to the subject that they're educated in! mainly because you can know all the theory in the world, if you're lacking common sense and the ability to apply theory to real life then you become a joke......admittedly a highly paid joke but you lose respect of anyone you deal with who has a bit of nouse because they can see straight through you. To be really successful you need education (usually), but also a whole host of other traits, most of which can't be taught. I've rather have all those other traits without the education, than education without common sense, competence, the ability to relate to people etc. etc. etc.

just to correct myself, those other traits can usually be taught, they can be taught by a normal upbringing, you can pick them up in everyday life by learning from mistakes, mixing with normal every day people, basically living a normal life. 9 out of 10 times these cocks that I'm talking about have come from well off families, have gone to a uni where they're molly coddled and brainwashed into thinking that after leaving they'll be fast tracked into management and will have a team of people doing the work for them by the time they're 30 (annoyingly they're right half the time!), don't actually start work until they're 25, and the nearest they've come got to a fight is when they were arguing with their best friend cuthbert about who had pinkest salmon in their sandwiches at playschool..........while the rest of us were eating jam butties on mighty white and twatting someone because they support Liverpool and therefore deserve to be twatted

I understand wat your saying rob and have to say its true both my younger sisters have turned into middle class snobs after excelling in education and getting good jobs one even moaned about me going into a council house after loosing my first house as she was more concernd wat her collegues at the b.b.c would think about her brother living in a council house.Education is a must in this day and age as long as you dont forget your roots.

[fieldsportsman 107]

i was speaking to someone the other day, and they said, just look at all these youngsters who leave with every qualification under the sun, and still cant get a job. they said who you know and experience is better

[Saho-man 50]

rather have 30k debt and be educated than be debt free and ignorant.

an ignorant man posted this

[FightTheBan 1,147]

i was speaking to someone the other day, and they said, just look at all these youngsters who leave with every qualification under the sun, and still cant get a job. they said who you know and experience is better

 

In times like this sadly that is definately the case.

I am currently trying to find my brother a job and am getting knocked back from good friends who a couple of years ago would have given him a start no bother.

It is getting harder and harder out there mate.

 

One thing I will say is if you go down the degree route at least you will be doing something meaningfull for the next 4 years instead of sitting at home with your thumb up your arse. And whos to say there will not be jobs a pleanty 4 years from now

 

Have you thought about as land manmagement degree, aiming to get into estate management/factor type work.

Either this or some form of agricultural degree is what I would be doing if I were in your shoes with your interests. I thinmk agriculture is the only outdoor industry I can see at least staying stable if not getting better within the forseable future with good prospects.

 

Whatever you do I would stay clear of the wishy washy applied science/biology/countryside management type degrees there 10 a penny and who wants to volunteer for the RSPB or natural england for 15 years before you will even be considered for a minimum wage job.

 

Just my opinion, I could well be wrong and often am.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide mate, you sound keen and enthusiastic so you already have a leg up on about % of the c**ts out of work at the minute.

 

FTB

[kenny14 656]

i was speaking to someone the other day, and they said, just look at all these youngsters who leave with every qualification under the sun, and still cant get a job. they said who you know and experience is better

 

In times like this sadly that is definately the case.

Whatever you do I would stay clear of the wishy washy applied science/biology/countryside management type degrees there 10 a penny and who wants to volunteer for the RSPB or natural england for 15 years before you will even be considered for a minimum wage job.

 

Just my opinion, I could well be wrong and often am.

 

FTB

Personally I think you're spot on there

[lanesra 4,007]

than be debt free and ignorant.

I am debt free and ignorant mate,your 100% accurate however,money is easy enough to make depending upon your character,but education is priceless,I constantly drum that into my kids,they say I make their ears bleed and am like a broken-record,I couldnt give a toss as long as they get a decent education,its one thing no one can steal or take away from you.

Totally agree , i had very little Education though if i say so myself ive done fine and certanily not ignorant , though encouraged my kids Educational wise 100% , as you say it can never be taken from you .

[fieldsportsman 107]

i was speaking to someone the other day, and they said, just look at all these youngsters who leave with every qualification under the sun, and still cant get a job. they said who you know and experience is better

 

In times like this sadly that is definately the case.

I am currently trying to find my brother a job and am getting knocked back from good friends who a couple of years ago would have given him a start no bother.

It is getting harder and harder out there mate.

 

One thing I will say is if you go down the degree route at least you will be doing something meaningfull for the next 4 years instead of sitting at home with your thumb up your arse. And whos to say there will not be jobs a pleanty 4 years from now

 

Have you thought about as land manmagement degree, aiming to get into estate management/factor type work.

Either this or some form of agricultural degree is what I would be doing if I were in your shoes with your interests. I thinmk agriculture is the only outdoor industry I can see at least staying stable if not getting better within the forseable future with good prospects.

 

Whatever you do I would stay clear of the wishy washy applied science/biology/countryside management type degrees there 10 a penny and who wants to volunteer for the RSPB or natural england for 15 years before you will even be considered for a minimum wage job.

 

Just my opinion, I could well be wrong and often am.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide mate, you sound keen and enthusiastic so you already have a leg up on about % of the c**ts out of work at the minute.

 

FTB

hi mate, cheers for the advise, im currently doing an extended diploma in countryside management, im also doing a 2 year work placement on an estate called lees court(was on country file few weeks back] which is near me. im hoping to if all goes well the keeper will ask me for an under keeper job at the end of it. if all goes well. im also trying to get my foot in the door in other places. Like you say though, who wants to be a volunteer, for the next 4 years. I think if youve got capital behind you and the skill, then maybe setting up your own buisness is the way to go, if all else fails.

[Saho-man 50]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCU5pN1NN4&feature=related

 

i will impress my brother with that lol

 

 

it was always maths that stopped me achieving my dreams in education..so pissed off now i want to be a mathematician lol

 

Edited November 21, 2011 by Saho-man

[Saho-man 50]

 

one of the comments was "

all the white kids are bored and all the asians are having a blast "

[mackem 29,214]

all the white kids are bored and all the asians are having a blast

Asia is a big continent,cant imagine the Turks getting excited over a pure maths lesson the way the chinese embrace it,my kids did some schooling in asia,totally different to here,once a week they had to be at school at 7am,the reason?Their turn to clean rubbish from the school-yard and sweep the paths,it taught them a lesson,a lot of asian countries the kids come from absolute zip,nothing whatsoever except poverty,learning and schooling,education itself is their escape route out of the slums and into a better life,I have a nephew who is half Thai,great kid but spoilt,he is on £70 a week pocket-money,he has a fridge in his room filled with soft-drinks and energy drinks,he lives the life of rielly,but he didnt do so well at school,he couldnt be bothered,been in trouble a few times with the cops etc,his cousins in Thailand are totally different,heads screwed on and they know they have to work to achieve what they want in life,they have direction and are going for it,food for thought as the far east is rising in the power game the same as the sun rises there in the mornings.