collie crosses

[Blue one 89]

This dog has no bother doing them single handed and his full sister i had up until a couple of years ago but had to be pts due to cancer had no problems doing them single handed he is 9 now and is still doing on the lamp and no bother drawing them when digging

 

Sounds like good breeding, where did you get them from, any more of that breeding?

[lurcher330 2,301]

This dog has no bother doing them single handed and his full sister i had up until a couple of years ago but had to be pts due to cancer had no problems doing them single handed he is 9 now and is still doing on the lamp and no bother drawing them when digging

 

Sounds like good breeding, where did you get them from, any more of that breeding?

a friend of mine bred them from is1st x collie / greyhound bitch to a greyhound hound dog he had for a while but he is still has the bitch she is 15 now and another friend of mine has the brother to mine but he never done much with him mainly just bushing a few rabbits and that and gods knows were the rest of the litter went

[Blue one 89]

This dog has no bother doing them single handed and his full sister i had up until a couple of years ago but had to be pts due to cancer had no problems doing them single handed he is 9 now and is still doing on the lamp and no bother drawing them when digging

 

Sounds like good breeding, where did you get them from, any more of that breeding?

a friend of mine bred them from is1st x collie / greyhound bitch to a greyhound hound dog he had for a while but he is still has the bitch she is 15 now and another friend of mine has the brother to mine but he never done much with him mainly just bushing a few rabbits and that and gods knows were the rest of the litter went

 

 

Ok, cheers. They sound a good mix and it seemed to have worked.

[rough dog 333]

hey 123456 why do you ask ??

[123456 146]

On the poachers pocket thread the young lads said that they won't do it so I was just showing that the majority of people that have hunted more then 6 months would have seen it

 

Atb 123456

[Guest PIKEYLAMPER]

Seen some good collie xs catch fox but alot appreciated the second dog when it got down to dispatching them. Most lurchers regardless of the breeding will chase an even grab a fox unfortunaly that's when they either do it or don't an most collie based dogs don't an before anyone starts am not sayin all are like that there is dogs out there bred for fox that get put to shame by some collie xs. Unless the dogs have been tested on a regular basis then use won't know if you have a fox dog or not you wouldn't call a bull x a coursing dog if it caught the odd hare, same goes for fox dogs, did that dog in the picture bird put up do them on a regular basis really like the look of that dog bird. An frankle how many fox has your collie cross actually had an how many do you think it would have to have before you can call it a foxing lurcher.

[FUJI 17,638]

These topics are just "lighter fuel" for an heated argument imo? Collie/Grey,Bull/Grey,Saluki/Grey,Deerhound/Grey...some do and some don't take em but the common denominator in them all is the humble Greyhound...trained them for many a year so am talking from experience here and i'd hazard a guess and say 85% of ALL Grey's would demolish a fox in seconds..so if you have an 1/2 cross with any of the aforementioned inc Bedlington Etc: then you'll have an above average chance of your dog taking a fox imho? Once you start diluting the Grey blood then the probability in the norm will decrease. ATB Andy.

[Guest PIKEYLAMPER]

These topics are just "lighter fuel" for an heated argument imo? Collie/Grey,Bull/Grey,Saluki/Grey,Deerhound/Grey...some do and some don't take em but the common denominator in them all is the humble

Greyhound...trained them for many a year so am talking from experience here and i'd hazard a guess and say 85% of ALL Grey's would demolish a fox in seconds..so if you have an 1/2 cross with any of the aforementioned inc

Bedlington Etc: then you'll have an above average chance of your dog taking a fox imho? Once you start diluting the Grey blood then the probability in the norm will decrease. ATB Andy.

 

I understand what your saying but there is a massive difference in a lurcher taking A fox an

Then being labelled a fox dog. It doesn't work like that as I've said a bull x catching a hare doesn't make it a coursing dog or maybe it does in some people's eyes

[FUJI 17,638]

Couldn't agree with you more PIKEYLAMPER..at the end of the day whatever an owners chosen quarry is "there's lurchers and there's LURCHER'S" lol..and that go's for foxing,hare coursing,rabbiting,lamping and so on?.ATB Andy.

[Simoman 110]

Couldn't agree with you more PIKEYLAMPER..at the end of the day whatever an owners chosen quarry is "there's lurchers and there's LURCHER'S" lol..and that go's for foxing,hare coursing,rabbiting,lamping and so on?.ATB Andy.

 

Amen to that, along with pikeylamper excellent couple of posts............

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I had a 3/4 collie x that never killed loads of foxes but I'd say he killed about 12 but only ever coursed/hunted around 20..........would he be classed as a fox dog?

 

I would honestly say no but when I did come across any they were more often than not killed.So he was capable of becoming a fox dog imo just never had the tackle around to prove him.

[lurcher330 2,301]

my collie xs would kill foxes when ever they were put to them but i would not call them complete fox dogs but i will say they were the best allround dogs i ever had they have been lamping all quarry from rabbits to deer bushed with terriers hung around the hole while digging coursed hare and been out ferreting but if your only quarry was fox and you planed on getting big number i reckon bull x or wheaten x would be your best bet

Edited September 20, 2011 by lurcher330

[bird 10,014]

Seen some good collie xs catch fox but alot appreciated the second dog when it got down to dispatching them. Most lurchers regardless of the breeding will chase an even grab a fox unfortunaly that's when they either do it or don't an most collie based dogs don't an before anyone starts am not sayin all are like that there is dogs out there bred for fox that get put to shame by some collie xs. Unless the dogs have been tested on a regular basis then use won't know if you have a fox dog or not you wouldn't call a bull x a coursing dog if it caught the odd hare, same goes for fox dogs, did that dog in the picture bird put up do them on a regular basis really like the look of that dog bird. An frankle how many fox has your collie cross actually had an how many do you think it would have to have before you can call it a foxing lurcher.

thanks on Blaze , you are right what you say, its how many they did a week after week. Blaze prob did 4-5 week, not many i know as some dogs will do that in a night pre ban. And most xs will be bullxs , its not that they will kill+catch better, as blaze was fast on them and would shake the shit out of them, its most bullxs will take alot more pain when they did the job.He took some stick when started, but soon learned to handle them better the more he did.This was in late 80s , i suppose if i pushed him harder back then he might have then, he might have not been so keen. But he did like to do them just as much as rabbits, but if that was the main sport pre ban i think you wont beat a bullxgrey for that job.

[Guest PIKEYLAMPER]

I had a 3/4 collie x that never killed loads of foxes but I'd say he killed about 12 but only ever coursed/hunted around 20..........would he be classed as a fox dog?

 

I would honestly say no but when I did come

across any they were more often than not killed.So he was capable of becoming a fox dog imo just never had the tackle around to prove him.

Am afraid only you can answer that johnny, if the answer to these questions is yes then there is no reason why this dog you speak of could not be regarded as a fox dog, did the dog take any stick on the ones he caught? An if so how did he react? Did he run a fox an not hesitate to strike without pickin it's spot?as I've witnessed collie xs tryin to pull a fox only to leave it that bit to late an they've lost out to cover. An would the dog run the where you pointed the lamp? As I've seen collie xs tryin harder only when the fox is near an I've seen the same dog not be interested in a long slip at a fox but would take a long slip at a rabbit. Am just speaking from my experiences with these dogs. As I have said johnny only you can make the decision to call your dog a fox dog or not your dog obviously had experience with them so if you can remember how he used to react to gettin abit of stick, an you can remember what the runs where like on the foxs he caught then it would be

interesting to know.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I had a 3/4 collie x that never killed loads of foxes but I'd say he killed about 12 but only ever coursed/hunted around 20..........would he be classed as a fox dog?

 

I would honestly say no but when I did come

across any they were more often than not killed.So he was capable of becoming a fox dog imo just never had the tackle around to prove him.

Am afraid only you can answer that johnny, if the answer to these questions is yes then there is no reason why this dog you speak of could not be regarded as a fox dog, did the dog take any stick on the ones he caught? An if so how did he react? Did he run a fox an not hesitate to strike without pickin it's spot?as I've witnessed collie xs tryin to pull a fox only to leave it that bit to late an they've lost out to cover. An would the dog run the where you pointed the lamp? As I've seen collie xs tryin harder only when the fox is near an I've seen the same dog not be interested in a long slip at a fox but would take a long slip at a rabbit. Am just speaking from my experiences with these dogs. As I have said johnny only you can make the decision to call your dog a fox dog or not your dog obviously had experience with them so if you can remember how he used to react to gettin abit of stick, an you can remember what the runs where like on the foxs he caught then it would be

interesting to know.

The dog could take a bit of stick if it was given but it never bothered him to much.........he never spat one anyway.

 

I did say earlier I didn't class him as a fox dog but he could've made one.