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I think it will happen sooner or later,we've pretty much lost all sense of community and any way to defend ourselves so imo it would be chaos,criminals who have guns would have free reign completely un-opposed to rob/rape/murder whoever they want.

 

and as technology develops there will be less chance of survival with easier accessibility to thermal imaging technology (you'll be the only big white blob in the woods if thats were you hide)

 

I think sparsely populated places would be slightly better off,in rural in Scotland for example it wouldnt be worth traveling there using ammo etc just for a few tartan skirts and some shortbread.

so maybe they could wait it out until the animals learn how to rule themselves again.

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I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together &am

never happen we are far to cultured for that sort of bullshit.as for your jibe at scotland :feck: come up and some time and call us that.

 

just shows how ignorant you are,if you think we all cut about in kilts and eat shortbread.

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never happen we are far to cultured for that sort of bullshit.as for your jibe at scotland :feck: come up and some time and call us that.

 

just shows how ignorant you are,if you think we all cut about in kilts and eat shortbread.

 

that was not a dig,i knew you'd take offence to it though.

so what would any rural far off the beaten track village offer to looters/house invaders?

baring in mind money would be of no value.

 

ive got family in Schckootland who i visit a few times a year,they're not as easily offended as you,but then again they do cut about in tartan skirts and eat a shit load of shortbread.

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

in an armed society i think your right,however what if those scum bags are the only people with guns?

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

 

if we were all armed then when people started trying to take freedom away from us (or any group) we could just kill them couldnt we?

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

 

if we were all armed then when people started trying to take freedom away from us (or any group) we could just kill them couldnt we?

 

 

How would your group work? For a group of individuals to resist another group of individuals intent on ordering you about there would have to be a organised chain of command within your group. In other words, unless you were the person at the top of the chain of command, you'd still have to do what you were told! It's all very well thinking that a group of individuals can have some sort of mutual help agreement on individually equal terms, but what would happen if a small number of these individuals decided to pick and choose when & where to act? Your whole system & community would then be vulnerable to any other organised group intent on taking control.

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

 

if we were all armed then when people started trying to take freedom away from us (or any group) we could just kill them couldnt we?

 

Yip and we could start with little inbreds like yourself :whistling: I love shortbread and I'm wearing a tartan skirt tonight so in the imortal words of William Wallace get it right up ye! :boogie:

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

 

if we were all armed then when people started trying to take freedom away from us (or any group) we could just kill them couldnt we?

 

 

How would your group work? For a group of individuals to resist another group of individuals intent on ordering you about there would have to be a organised chain of command within your group. In other words, unless you were the person at the top of the chain of command, you'd still have to do what you were told! It's all very well thinking that a group of individuals can have some sort of mutual help agreement on individually equal terms, but what would happen if a small number of these individuals decided to pick and choose when & where to act? Your whole system & community would then be vulnerable to any other organised group intent on taking control.

 

thats some sensible argument in both your posts thumbs.gif

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imo it would take an event like the government collapsing to wake people up,then everyone has the right to rule themselves as long as they stick to common law or a similar set of clearly defined laws,if they dont then they may be arrested by anyone tried (by an elected person) and executed if found guilty.

 

their possessions go to the one who arrested them,which is the incentive to catch criminals.

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their possessions go to the one who arrested them,which is the incentive to catch criminals.

Its also an incentive to stitch people up :blink: F*ck this,if the UK collapses into a lawless free-for-all like Somalia you can all go and claim asylum in the states or Australia or NZ :D

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I don't think things would change much. If theft, rape, murder were legal or you knew you would get away with it would you do it?

 

Most people still wouldn't unless they had absolutely no other option. With regards to thieves you get 2 types. You get the ones that are desperate and just do it as they see no other way to survive and you get scumbags that don't care about others. With no police around I don't think the scumbags would last long.

 

I admire your faith in human nature & how you think we could self police in the absence of government, but IMO it wouldn't be long before the stronger willed among us started grouping together & dictating what was best for the rest of society. That's how rule started in the first place. There will always be leaders and followers, it's human nature. All men are equal, but some are more equal than others! :D:thumbs:

 

if we were all armed then when people started trying to take freedom away from us (or any group) we could just kill them couldnt we?

 

Yip and we could start with little inbreds like yourself :whistling: I love shortbread and I'm wearing a tartan skirt tonight so in the imortal words of William Wallace get it right up ye! :boogie:

 

William Wallace the mercenary who fought for the English,and then got tortured to death when he decided to rise up against them?

what you wear in the privacy of your own homes your own business flower :kiss:

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