gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) ill tell you why,cause the whole concept of being a suicide bomber is to kill a load of innocent people.if my parents didnt bother as im sure most didnt when we played soldiers.however if my father had asked me what i was playing and i replied i was a suicide bomber.id have been dragged in the house and got my arse leathered.i honestly cant see how you can compare the two.also the big diffence is,this in all probability is more than a game going on here.we know there are kids out thier who crave to become a martyr in the name of that child molester allah. Exactly....imagine your father coming into your room and you saying " its ok dad im just pretending to make a liquid bomb so i can take it on the London underground and kill hundreds of innocent people on their way into work tomorrow " " oh ok son as long as you dont come to any harm theres a good lad "... Edited June 20, 2011 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 what do you think RAF fighter pilots were doing? putting on a nice air show for the crowds???? No...i imagine they were doing pretty much exactly the same to their enemy/opponent as was being done to them.... So as regards the comparison you make.... i dont see any Englishman going over to a Muslim country and bombing random women and children....do you ? I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 what do you think RAF fighter pilots were doing? putting on a nice air show for the crowds???? No...i imagine they were doing pretty much exactly the same to their enemy/opponent as was being done to them.... So as regards the comparison you make.... i dont see any Englishman going over to a Muslim country and bombing random women and children....do you ? I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate. ignorance is bliss eh? oh well, whatever, a clip of a few kids playing has taken up too much of my time already to be honest......when you get a couple of minutes have a look through a few of these stats though.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_caused_by_ISAF_and_US_Forces_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%%93present) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ignorance is bliss eh? oh well, whatever, a clip of a few kids playing has taken up too much of my time already to be honest......when you get a couple of minutes have a look through a few of these stats though.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_caused_by_ISAF_and_US_Forces_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%%93present) Well,i can honestly say you are the first Brit i have ever heard trying to justify the London 7/7 bombings.....i choose that as it was quite close to my heart...... Kids play we know that,but to ignore simple right and wrong and give it excuses and justification....well i dont understand that at all....if thats ignorance id rather live that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ignorance is bliss eh? oh well, whatever, a clip of a few kids playing has taken up too much of my time already to be honest......when you get a couple of minutes have a look through a few of these stats though.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_caused_by_ISAF_and_US_Forces_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%%93present) Well,i can honestly say you are the first Brit i have ever heard trying to justify the London 7/7 bombings.....i choose that as it was quite close to my heart...... Kids play we know that,but to ignore simple right and wrong and give it excuses and justification....well i dont understand that at all....if thats ignorance id rather live that way I really don't see where I tried to justify the London bombings, talk about try and twist my words! Let me explain it in more simple terms, they were PLAYING, they were imitating acts of war....same way that we used to PLAY and imitate acts of war. That's all I said. I didn't condone anything, whether it's London bombings or attacks on Afghanistan. What I was saying is a clip of a few kids playing is being blown out of all proportion by people that did exactly the same thing when they were kids. The reason why I put that link up is because people like you bizarrely think that the allies don't kill civilians...count up the number that have died and it's a hell of a lot more than the 9/11 attacks, London bombs etc. put together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate. funny that cause thats exactly the conclusion i thought aout you. also i dont regard suicide bombing as an act of war,quite the opposite in fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ... i think there is a major difference between playing soldiers (japs and caddys we called it lol)... We used to play Skinheads and Indian's when we were kids, although it did get a bit rougher than normal play hahaha. On a serious note though, I think there is a difference between kids playing as the soldiers they see in films, and in their games compared to kids being suicide bombers that have killed and maimed an untold number of people. I suppose the kids are just a product of their environment, which is a sad thing really . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The reason why I put that link up is because people like you bizarrely think that the allies don't kill civilians...count up the number that have died and it's a hell of a lot more than the 9/11 attacks, London bombs etc. put together. And thats not tryin to justify it If your asking me to believe that English men walk into crowded Muslim areas randomly blowing up women and children,sorry no i dont believe that....and when your making comparisons the way you are,if its not the same then whos twisting words ..... Comparing Muslim kids pretending to commit mass murder on everyday people is not the same as English kids pretending to be RAF fighter pilots in the war mate...lets keep it simple and on the subject of the orginal thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate. funny that cause thats exactly the conclusion i thought aout you. also i dont regard suicide bombing as an act of war,quite the opposite in fact. You what...........i was agreeing with you....if im trying to be different,then so are you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The reason why I put that link up is because people like you bizarrely think that the allies don't kill civilians...count up the number that have died and it's a hell of a lot more than the 9/11 attacks, London bombs etc. put together. And thats not tryin to justify it If your asking me to believe that English men walk into crowded Muslim areas randomly blowing up women and children,sorry no i dont believe that....and when your making comparisons the way you are,if its not the same then whos twisting words ..... Comparing Muslim kids pretending to commit mass murder on everyday people is not the same as English kids pretending to be RAF fighter pilots in the war mate...lets keep it simple and on the subject of the orginal thread. No!!!!!!!!!!! f'ck me you're either very simple, very argumentative, or both. YOU said that we don't kill civilians.....I showed you stats that show that we do. No, you're right, we don't walk into crowds to bomb, we do it from the air or from the ground at a distance. That is it, that's all I said. I didn't give my opinion on whether their civilians dying justifies a retaliation or vice versa because that's nothing to do with what I am trying to say. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) i have never once said we dont kill innocent people.we do our best to min it,but yes innocent people do die in war.your very quick to say we are blinded by propaganda and what were fed and what we would rather believe.well mate there a flip side to that coin aswell.there plenty propaganda comes from muslim nations and there are always plenty of f*****g do gooders and hand wringers in this country who preach it.It never fails to suprise me,that people born and bred in the uk are so very quick to condem the actions of thier own country.i find that whole idea bizzare Edited June 20, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate. funny that cause thats exactly the conclusion i thought aout you. also i dont regard suicide bombing as an act of war,quite the opposite in fact. You what...........i was agreeing with you....if im trying to be different,then so are you i was posting a quote from rob mate lol "I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate." quote from rob! Edited June 20, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pegleg33 134 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Right lets me put it to you this way Rob, If a bunch of kids got dressed up as skin heads (swimming caps for those of you with no imagination) and wrote BNP/EDL on them and painted a few of their mates brown then started filming themsleves kicking the shit out of them.Wouldn't you find that a little concerning?. There's a big difference between playing war games and Glorifying some cowardly act.All i can see with those little DPB's running around playing them sort of games, is in 10 yrs time they'll be even more suicide bombers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I think the difference is that these muslim kids are groomed from a very early age to hate all things western....they have it drilled into them that dying for their religion(suicide bombing)is a good thing. Whereas our kids just play and mimic what they see and hear...atb stabba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 No!!!!!!!!!!! f'ck me you're either very simple, very argumentative, or both. YOU said that we don't kill civilians.....I showed you stats that show that we do. No, you're right, we don't walk into crowds to bomb, we do it from the air or from the ground at a distance. That is it, that's all I said. I didn't give my opinion on whether their civilians dying justifies a retaliation or vice versa because that's nothing to do with what I am trying to say. Slow down son dont start getting lippy.....unlike some i dont claim to be a political or military expert i probably naively believe % of what i read/see and make judgement on that,no i dont delve into statistics people like you do. If your saying " we " specifically target and kill innocent women and children,well i didnt know that you learn something every day i guess.....id like to see proof of it but for now im happy to take your word for it as you seem to know your shit...............however,i still believe that as kids we thought we was killing other soldiers when we lobbed stones at our pals,i dont remember thinkin we was killing women and children,so surely the basic concept of what they are doing in that clip,is still wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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