slingshot82 32 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 I was at the range at Dinnington near Newcastle today (Steve Smiths) and heard Jimmy Shitcrack talkin to Billy Bullshit about an air rifle he had that he used to shoot rabbits at ranges of 100 yards, 56ft.lbs Haha, he then went on to say it was a Weihrauch HW80. As if that power is achievable. Kyle Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,929 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 HA ha Is this a wee joke ! Bullshit !! actually probably not,, HW `s are seriously tunable and 56 ft/lbs may be achievable with them It`s a figure I would believe, given that I`ve tuned a Diana 52 to 60 ft/lbs(uncontrollable,, b*****d to shoot.. settled back down at 35 ft/lbs,,highest figure on the chrono was 72 ft /lbs),, may not be easy ,but would be doable methinks. Be interested to hear what the sites tuners think ATB Quote Link to post
ryan666 64 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 dont see why not? i know of a lad who runs his rapid at 80lbs and pops rabbits at 100 yards so why not a hw80? Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 56?? From an My feckin' arse!! Maybe the first shot or two over the chrono when it's dieseling it's arse off but after that, forget it. 18-22 at best before it starts to blow pellets all over the place. As Rake has said, those Dianas can be tuned well, mid 30's is easy with them and they still shoot very well indeed Cheers. Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,584 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) dont see why not? i know of a lad who runs his rapid at 80lbs and pops rabbits at 100 yards so why not a hw80? Hi Ryan. Because there is a world of difference between cycling the bolt on an FAC tuned PCP and actually cocking a break barrel spring rifle with an FAC tune and a high performance spring in the cylinder. Have you ever tried to cock a break barrel spring rifle like an HW80K tuned to 19.5 ft/lbs? I do, I own an HW80 on ticket to that level of power. It's a noticeably heavier, much firmer cocking effort than a sub 12ft/lb rifle, when you begin shooting with it. After 30-40 shots and more, it's really an armful of cocking effort. An HW80 is a beautiful rifle to shoot with at higher power in the order of 18 to 22 ft/lbs as a desired maximum. That's about as high as honest, good tuners would recommend they can be usefully tuned to without serious accuracy loss from destabilising the pellet with way too much zap. A over-powerful rifle that cannot hit a tight, precision group reliably and predictably is a pile of so much useless crap. Also, spring rifles spool up the power in a longer release cycle as the spring uncoils through the firing cycle; unlike a PCP which releases it's air charge in one measured spit from the regulator. This has consequences for higher powered spring rifles beyond a certain limit. But 56ft/lbs and precision accuracy, cocked on the barrel of an HW80? Cock! Sorry but I cannot see that as a practical power level to tune an HW80 to. Simon Edited June 12, 2011 by pianoman Quote Link to post
2bob 9 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 don't under estimate the hw80 Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 32 would be about the max for the hw80, most are set around 22 in fac Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Even if it was achievable to get 56 from a HW80, you would need to be built like Mr universe to cock the f****r. And this bloke certainly wasn't. Kyle Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 My first ever airrifle was bought from a carboot in 85, bsa meteor.the guy said he had shot rabbits at 70 yrds and it was deadly.not bad for a 15 yr old rust bucket with a broken breach seal 1 Quote Link to post
ryan666 64 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 well i know nowt about springers but i can see the point about cocking it Quote Link to post
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