Are our laws strong enough

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

the only problem with hunting with hounds is please do not insult my intelligence by telling me its for fox control i can kill more foxes in a week with my rifle :wallbash:any one can pull a trigger and lamp not every one can hunt a pack of hounds

 

 

however i respect there right to hunt in which way they choose

[smithie 2,444]

should hanging be brought back

 

 

id vote yes for hanging and i would prefer that to giving the injection as its not as humane and would be more of a deterant..

 

 

who would i hang?

 

thats easy.. murderers, all sex offenders and anybody that been given prison 5 year sentences 3 times or more as these people will not to the line.. imsure before hanging they would have to do some jail time to a. suffer and b. most importantly give them time to prove there inocence..

 

i woulb be happy to do the job of Albert Pierrepoint

[keeper 51 78]

i seen a video i think its in Iran where the family of a murdered man are allowed to be the ones who execute his killers by way of firing squad.

 

Thanks for the reply and the video

do i take it that you are in favor of the death penalty

[Born Hunter 17,843]

Hanging for peados and rapist, not sure about murderers because murder can often be committed due to highly emotional situations. For instance if someone I loved was seriously attacked and I was there, if I took defence too far and caved the b*****ds scull in with a brick that would be murder but I dont feel it hangable. Murderers that committed the offence through personal greed just to get rid of someone I would hang. Corporal punishment for todays disrespectfull scum would be good also, publicly too.

[scothunter 12,609]

i cant support the death penalty,as i have no faith in our justice system.to many rotten cops and political interfering.i know its a bit hard for some to agree,especially when it comes to scum who kill and molest kids.but you either have capital punishment or you dont.i couldnt think of a worse case scenario than standing with a rope round your neck knowing your country is killing you for something you didnt do.you only need to look back a few years ago to know this happened.bently craig case.then there was the guy who had the mental age of 12 who was hanged for killing his wife and kid.only to be found out later it was christie.ah and before people say if there is no resonable doubt they should hang,well innocents have ben hanged when a jury thought there was no doubt.also some would argue in todays dna times its hard evidence.agreed but id argue all the more danger of someone setting you up like cops.ive argued this a few times with mates and they alays say aye but those bulger killers should have hanged.well im doubtfull of that aswell.i tend to think that we as a society and responsible adults hold a great deal of responsibility for that.when kids go out and kill kids in such a horrific way,that my friends is a a black mark on our society.and tell the truth could any of you lads have dragged those 2 eleven yer olds from a cell and put a rope round thier necks,i for one couldnt.its very easy to say you would now as they are adults,but could you in all honesty could you have done it.if ever there was a case to reinstate death penalty it lay in the older generation when brady and hyndley did what they did.they didnt and it will never ever be re introduced.

[keeper 51 78]

should hanging be brought back

 

 

id vote yes for hanging and i would prefer that to giving the injection as its not as humane and would be more of a deterant..

 

 

who would i hang?

 

thats easy.. murderers, all sex offenders and anybody that been given prison 5 year sentences 3 times or more as these people will not to the line.. imsure before hanging they would have to do some jail time to a. suffer and b. most importantly give them time to prove there inocence..

 

i woulb be happy to do the job of Albert Pierrepoint

 

Thanks for the reply

some very interesting points including the three 5 yr jail sentences it would empty a few prison cells

[Malt 379]

Our laws are tough enough as it is, it's the implementation of them by soft leftie judges that's the problem, IMO.

[graham4877 1,181]

Rules and law are for f*****g kids, and i'm no kid, i know what is right and wrong to do! law's do not work FACT!! Think about it!

what we need is for us to luck after our own place of residence, we don't need some f*****g copper coming along do we, and what do they get £50 fine and a slap on the hand, then they are back out robbing the same night, far better to go out give them a f*****g good kicking and get them to pay for what ever they done! then if they do it again smash their hand and legs and feet with a hammer,

nonces should be handcuffed to a lamp post in the street and every one who walks passed should be made to hit them!

burglars will be killed in your home or if some one steels your car shoot them while they are driving away!!

[keeper 51 78]

i cant support the death penalty,as i have no faith in our justice system.to many rotten cops and political interfering.i know its a bit hard for some to agree,especially when it comes to scum who kill and molest kids.but you either have capital punishment or you dont.i couldnt think of a worse case scenario than standing with a rope round your neck knowing your country is killing you for something you didnt do.you only need to look back a few years ago to know this happened.bently craig case.then there was the guy who had the mental age of 12 who was hanged for killing his wife and kid.only to be found out later it was christie.ah and before people say if there is no resonable doubt they should hang,well innocents have ben hanged when a jury thought there was no doubt.also some would argue in todays dna times its hard evidence.agreed but id argue all the more danger of someone setting you up like cops.ive argued this a few times with mates and they alays say aye but those bulger killers should have hanged.well im doubtfull of that aswell.i tend to think that we as a society and responsible adults hold a great deal of responsibility for that.when kids go out and kill kids in such a horrific way,that my friends is a a black mark on our society.and tell the truth could any of you lads have dragged those 2 eleven yer olds from a cell and put a rope round thier necks,i for one couldnt.its very easy to say you would now as they are adults,but could you in all honesty could you have done it.if ever there was a case to reinstate death penalty it lay in the older generation when brady and hyndley did what they did.they didnt and it will never ever be re introduced.

 

Very interesting post and we all have our own personal feelings on the taking of life be it human or animal

just a couple of things i would question how do you feel about the birch being brought back for lesser crimes

like attacks on the weak and vulnerable in our society

and would you expect a life sentence for murder to mean for the rest of their natural life not the 25 yrs or 12.5 if your a good boy like now

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Anonymity/new identities should not be given to any criminals. If your sentence was not enough the general public will make sure it is on your release(nonces/rapists/murderers etc).

 

 

Any immigrant convicted of any crime no matter how menial should face immediate deportation along with the rest of their family. Thats should put an end to the bullshit.

 

There should also be no protection within jails. If you comit a crime you serve your time in a mainstream prison. They are often good at dishing out further justice.

 

Nonces and rapists would soon be begging for the death penalty.

 

Any problems with the above?

 

FTB

Edited May 7, 2011 by FightTheBan

[keeper 51 78]

Hanging for peados and rapist, not sure about murderers because murder can often be committed due to highly emotional situations. For instance if someone I loved was seriously attacked and I was there, if I took defence too far and caved the b*****ds scull in with a brick that would be murder but I dont feel it hangable. Murderers that committed the offence through personal greed just to get rid of someone I would hang. Corporal punishment for todays disrespectfull scum would be good also, publicly too.

 

thanks for the reply

if you condone hanging for peados and rapists i can not see your questioning of murders being hanged

i take your point on if in defence of another you were to over step the mark and kill someone that you could be hanged i think you would find that the courts and jury would not class

your actions as murder i may be wrong but that's my opinion

and what about a lot of rapist who say in their opinion the sex was consensual one persons word against another

can this warrant a death sentence

[stewie 3,387]

Anonymity/new identities should not be given to any criminals. If your sentence was not enough the general public will make sure it is on your release(nonces/rapists/murderers etc).

 

 

Any immigrant convicted of any crime no matter how menial should face immediate deportation along with the rest of their family. Thats should put an end to the bullshit.

 

There should also be no protection within jails. If you comit a crime you serve your time in a mainstream prison. They are often good at dishing out further justice.

 

Nonces and rapists would soon be begging for the death penalty.

 

Any problems with the above?

 

FTB

no

[scothunter 12,609]

i cant support the death penalty,as i have no faith in our justice system.to many rotten cops and political interfering.i know its a bit hard for some to agree,especially when it comes to scum who kill and molest kids.but you either have capital punishment or you dont.i couldnt think of a worse case scenario than standing with a rope round your neck knowing your country is killing you for something you didnt do.you only need to look back a few years ago to know this happened.bently craig case.then there was the guy who had the mental age of 12 who was hanged for killing his wife and kid.only to be found out later it was christie.ah and before people say if there is no resonable doubt they should hang,well innocents have ben hanged when a jury thought there was no doubt.also some would argue in todays dna times its hard evidence.agreed but id argue all the more danger of someone setting you up like cops.ive argued this a few times with mates and they alays say aye but those bulger killers should have hanged.well im doubtfull of that aswell.i tend to think that we as a society and responsible adults hold a great deal of responsibility for that.when kids go out and kill kids in such a horrific way,that my friends is a a black mark on our society.and tell the truth could any of you lads have dragged those 2 eleven yer olds from a cell and put a rope round thier necks,i for one couldnt.its very easy to say you would now as they are adults,but could you in all honesty could you have done it.if ever there was a case to reinstate death penalty it lay in the older generation when brady and hyndley did what they did.they didnt and it will never ever be re introduced.

 

Very interesting post and we all have our own personal feelings on the taking of life be it human or animal

just a couple of things i would question how do you feel about the birch being brought back for lesser crimes

like attacks on the weak and vulnerable in our society

and would you expect a life sentence for murder to mean for the rest of their natural life not the 25 yrs or 12.5 if your a good boy like now

 

 

would depend on the actual murder mate.some guy who kills someone else in a street fight,where it was widely accepted that was not the intention,then id say a lesser sentence would be more approriate.(think the family would disagree,ut thats understandable)someone who plans and executes a murder well then yes i would say lock them away for a long time.as for the birch.well no i dont agree with that either.i feel it would be a step back and as one who has condemmed the taliban and other muslim states who beat women and kids and men with sticks and other horrible punishment,then i would be a hypocrite to say i would adopt such beatings in this country.right or wrong i am proud of the fact we are a civillised nation and wouldnt want to see people being birched.i used to get the belt every day at school never done me any harm but the flip side to that coin was it never done me any good either.its a hrd one and one that emotions run high,ut we should never let our emotions cloud our british judgement.people have been breaking laws and cmmiting henious acts since time began.i think imprisoment is the only true punishment and the cost of doing so is well franlky what we have to ut up with living in a free world.

[Ideation 8,216]

Right r.e caning in school. The only children it would really inspire fear in, are those who could be kept in line with less draconian measures. Those who you would really want it to have an effect on, it wouldn't. Sure, you might hurt them in the short term, but you'll just lose them into society and need to deal with them at a later stage at greater cost. It would be used as a cover for poor teaching, any one questioning the system or teaching would get a smack. Violence breeds violence. There is also the fact that often there ARE real under lying problems, and its not just something you can label as lefty hand wringing nursemaid society stuff. An example would be, kid kicks off in class, has an issue with authority, is very angry, often violent, so you could cane it out of him? But when you actually hear the kids story (pretty tough to get) it turns out the kid has been sexually abused for years by a foster brother. It's just a poor substitute for a better system. What that is mind, i don't know.

[Ideation 8,216]

i cant support the death penalty,as i have no faith in our justice system.to many rotten cops and political interfering.i know its a bit hard for some to agree,especially when it comes to scum who kill and molest kids.but you either have capital punishment or you dont.i couldnt think of a worse case scenario than standing with a rope round your neck knowing your country is killing you for something you didnt do.you only need to look back a few years ago to know this happened.bently craig case.then there was the guy who had the mental age of 12 who was hanged for killing his wife and kid.only to be found out later it was christie.ah and before people say if there is no resonable doubt they should hang,well innocents have ben hanged when a jury thought there was no doubt.also some would argue in todays dna times its hard evidence.agreed but id argue all the more danger of someone setting you up like cops.ive argued this a few times with mates and they alays say aye but those bulger killers should have hanged.well im doubtfull of that aswell.i tend to think that we as a society and responsible adults hold a great deal of responsibility for that.when kids go out and kill kids in such a horrific way,that my friends is a a black mark on our society.and tell the truth could any of you lads have dragged those 2 eleven yer olds from a cell and put a rope round thier necks,i for one couldnt.its very easy to say you would now as they are adults,but could you in all honesty could you have done it.if ever there was a case to reinstate death penalty it lay in the older generation when brady and hyndley did what they did.they didnt and it will never ever be re introduced.

 

Very interesting post and we all have our own personal feelings on the taking of life be it human or animal

just a couple of things i would question how do you feel about the birch being brought back for lesser crimes

like attacks on the weak and vulnerable in our society

and would you expect a life sentence for murder to mean for the rest of their natural life not the 25 yrs or 12.5 if your a good boy like now

 

 

would depend on the actual murder mate.some guy who kills someone else in a street fight,where it was widely accepted that was not the intention,then id say a lesser sentence would be more approriate.(think the family would disagree,ut thats understandable)someone who plans and executes a murder well then yes i would say lock them away for a long time.as for the birch.well no i dont agree with that either.i feel it would be a step back and as one who has condemmed the taliban and other muslim states who beat women and kids and men with sticks and other horrible punishment,then i would be a hypocrite to say i would adopt such beatings in this country.right or wrong i am proud of the fact we are a civillised nation and wouldnt want to see people being birched.i used to get the belt every day at school never done me any harm but the flip side to that coin was it never done me any good either.its a hrd one and one that emotions run high,ut we should never let our emotions cloud our british judgement.people have been breaking laws and cmmiting henious acts since time began.i think imprisoment is the only true punishment and the cost of doing so is well franlky what we have to ut up with living in a free world.

 

 

What about prisons paying for themselves, down near here we have a prison farm, they are made to work the farm, and the money goes into running the prison, including the bit that they cant let folk out of.