eye problem when firing off the shot

[ArchieHood 3,692]

Superglue....... ..........

[watchman 256]

Superglue....... ..........

 

that should do it

[Karpman 44]

Use a jiz mag as a target

 

I'm with phantom get him firing into a bucket of sand until he relaxes. Could take him to shoot a few clays if you have means. An air rifle would seem pretty tame after.

 

Karpman

[watchman 256]

Use a jiz mag as a target

 

I'm with phantom get him firing into a bucket of sand until he relaxes. Could take him to shoot a few clays if you have means. An air rifle would seem pretty tame after.

 

Karpman

 

jiz mag yes,man with both eyes shut pulling the trigger on a 12 bore,think il give that a miss for now but yes see where your coming from

[andyfr1968 772]

Great advice as useual and I'm really big on the Super Glue!!

 

What I'm going to sugest is a bit of an arse about face way of teaching someone to shoot but here goes....

 

If the lad's gun shy and a lot of folks are to begin with, maybe if he learned the basics with a PCP or Co2 gun instead, it could well be the way to go. He'll get a handle on the basics without flinching, closeing his eyes and generally shitting himself 'cos of a little recoil and a bit of a bang.....

 

Super Sports aren't the nicest of springers at the best of times, they're twangy, have crap triggers and do recoil more than most and all of those things will just compound his errors.

 

My eldest lad had a similar problem with my old Webley Xocet when he first started to learn, I moved him onto my Ratcatcher until he'd got a handle on the basics and now he's fine with the springer. May be worth a try...?

 

Cheers

[watchman 256]

ok lads plenty of good advice there so il give it a go thanks

[matt_hooks 188]

Firstly, he needs to shoot with both eyes open. It could be that he's left eye dominant, which can cause the right eye to close when squeezing the trigger. There's a good guide to finding out which eye is dominant HERE.

 

If it comes out as left eye dominant, get him to keep his left eye open, and make an eye patch to cover it up.

 

It could be a flinch. Does he move his body position when shooting? Some people who've fired a heavy recoiling gun (like a 12 bore or center fire rifle) without being taught to use it properly can develop a bad flinch very quickly. To test for this, do the "hidden loading" routine, where you stand behind them and hand them the rifle, having cocked it or not cocked it at random. You'll need to simulate the sound of cocking, or move away from him as the brain can subconsciously tell the rifle is loaded or not by the sound made.

 

Get him to fire the rifle like that, and if the eye still closes, and/or he "pulls away" from the shot rather than following through properly, then that is his issue (have to say that's what it sounds like). The PCP (basically zero recoiling) rifle is the way to train it out of him. Get him to fire a PCP at lots of different targets, and get him used to the feel of following through the shot properly. This could well cure the problem easily.

 

He needs to do it without thinking. If he thinks the shot too much, he'll make the problem worse!

 

Sounds like a good challenge, good luck getting him sorted!

 

Have you checked that the rifle fits ok, and he's holding it into his shoulder properly? If he's not, then he could be feeling the recoil more than necessary. Check position and mount, and that his eye isn't too close to the scope.

[shepp 2,285]

He needs to grow a pair!

 

I was going to say that

[SEAN3513 7]

Use a jiz mag as a target

 

I'm with phantom get him firing into a bucket of sand until he relaxes. Could take him to shoot a few clays if you have means. An air rifle would seem pretty tame after.

 

Karpman

 

jiz mag yes,man with both eyes shut pulling the trigger on a 12 bore,think il give that a miss for now but yes see where your coming from

 

 

use a jiz mag.....and you'll see where HE'S coming from !!!!!!

[andyfr1968 772]

Use a jiz mag as a target

 

I'm with phantom get him firing into a bucket of sand until he relaxes. Could take him to shoot a few clays if you have means. An air rifle would seem pretty tame after.

 

Karpman

 

jiz mag yes,man with both eyes shut pulling the trigger on a 12 bore,think il give that a miss for now but yes see where your coming from

 

 

use a jiz mag.....and you'll see where HE'S coming from !!!!!!

 

Yeah but a shot can go anywhere on the vinigar stroke

 

Too much movement for accurate shot placement, IMO

[Phantom 631]

Trust you lot to bring it down to my level

[watchman 256]

Firstly, he needs to shoot with both eyes open. It could be that he's left eye dominant, which can cause the right eye to close when squeezing the trigger. There's a good guide to finding out which eye is dominant HERE.

 

If it comes out as left eye dominant, get him to keep his left eye open, and make an eye patch to cover it up.

 

It could be a flinch. Does he move his body position when shooting? Some people who've fired a heavy recoiling gun (like a 12 bore or center fire rifle) without being taught to use it properly can develop a bad flinch very quickly. To test for this, do the "hidden loading" routine, where you stand behind them and hand them the rifle, having cocked it or not cocked it at random. You'll need to simulate the sound of cocking, or move away from him as the brain can subconsciously tell the rifle is loaded or not by the sound made.

 

Get him to fire the rifle like that, and if the eye still closes, and/or he "pulls away" from the shot rather than following through properly, then that is his issue (have to say that's what it sounds like). The PCP (basically zero recoiling) rifle is the way to train it out of him. Get him to fire a PCP at lots of different targets, and get him used to the feel of following through the shot properly. This could well cure the problem easily.

 

He needs to do it without thinking. If he thinks the shot too much, he'll make the problem worse!

 

Sounds like a good challenge, good luck getting him sorted!

 

Have you checked that the rifle fits ok, and he's holding it into his shoulder properly? If he's not, then he could be feeling the recoil more than necessary. Check position and mount, and that his eye isn't too close to the scope.

 

fits like a glove,his words not mine but yes does seem ok,had to move the scope forward slightly other than that il take the tips on board and get him going,hopefully,cheers for that

[Alex Arrigone 24]

hi,

 

i must admit i have skippe most of the posts due to time constraints, so i may be repeating what others have said before.

 

i belive he may be expecting a massive kick back from the springer. once he has fired it a few tikmes he should adjust. also without the correct support, due to the kick back, its hard to be completely accurate. especially if it is a one shot weapon due to the change in position.

 

certain people take a lot longer with adjustijng to weapons than others. parctice makes perfect!

 

atb . alex

[davyt63 1,845]

Hi Alex

the both of you should come to the meet!

And by the time of the end of it he will be shooting straight.there will be a few experience shooters there to give advise and improve his technique.

You know it makes sense!

 

Regards

 

Davy

[Alex Arrigone 24]

Hi Alex

the both of you should come to the meet!

And by the time of the end of it he will be shooting straight.there will be a few experience shooters there to give advise and improve his technique.

You know it makes sense!

 

Regards

 

Davy

 

 

where and when is this meet?

 

atb

 

alex