sighthound123 31 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 oh right cheers, so how did the dog compare to a saluki lurcher running on the fens? more up and at them? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) to me a fen dog is not a allrounder is just good on one thing then you dont know what a fen dog is then ..iam not going to get into this again but please dont think just because a dog runs the fens or bred for the fens can only catch on the fens you would be being very nieve.... chid21 you are 100% correct one good day dont make a dog ...and the dog did have a good day...but i didnt get him for the fens ,,,i got him for what he does best and thats a bit of everthing everwhere hes been on everything hes ever run ..i used take him down there to keep him fit and have some fun it was his last season down there.. now just local for him from now on,,,.but he was good to run while my other dog was between runs who was bred for the fens... Edited April 9, 2011 by snoopdog Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 imo any dog that catches 4 out of 5 on the fens is a fair dog even if its only the once Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 imo any dog that catches 4 out of 5 on the fens is a fair dog even if its only the once thanks he is a fair dog but i was saying he aint a fen dog... anyway iam not going to steal toms thread ..imo an allround can be any size or cross ...it just got to be able to adapt on the ground its running and the quarry its after..and catch a good number of varid quarry....consitantly ... 2 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 At the end of the day, a lot of dogs have the ability to be an 'all rounder', it's usually the owners lack of time or motivation that stops a good dog being a great dog. 1 Quote Link to post
stubblebasher 150 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 To me an allrounder is a dog that can do most aspects of hunting. If you get invited coursing, or a days ferreting, of a night on the lamp, you should be able to take the same dog. It's probably impossible to find one that excels at everything but most good dogs should have a go at most things. I personally like saluki types, as most dogs can learn to ferret and lamp but I believe stamina is in the genes regardless of how well you train it. I agree mate .The type of dog you speak of i have also owned ,a true allrounder , excellent at night ,and has also won daytime matches . They do exist and they all have saluki blood . Quote Link to post
supersam 64 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 At the end of the day, a lot of dogs have the ability to be an 'all rounder', it's usually the owners lack of time or motivation that stops a good dog being a great dog. or lack of imagination or the owner being one track minded. ya see alot of fox dogs,alot of hare dogs,alot of lamping rabbit dogs but not many dogs that will all of the above and then go ferreting the following day. Quote Link to post
kevin from bristol 95 Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 for me an allrounder is an animal that can most of the time take any quarry on any land night or day listens and also knows were to be when hedgeing or ferreting and most importantly get the first round in when all is done Quote Link to post
ROBERTO M 350 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 ive got a saluki lurcher x lurcher ... 5 seasons under his belt and hes been what i call a proper honest dog ...hes ran up and down the country on allsorts and never let me down on the lamp or daytime ..ive let him down a time or too ,,,running him to hard ,,,,but his heart is massive...for what i have run him on alot of dogs would of thrown the towel in.....hes had some real stick running on ground and i will quote what a mate said ..he wouldnt run a cat on it .. never been a fan of ferreting so for that reason he aint to good ....his feet arnt the best no more...but he still fills the freezer when hes asked to ..great with other dogs people kids...what i call an allrounder ..thers a few lads who have been out with this dog and nobody has had a bad word to say about him ever... hes had 4 out of 5 on the fen in december but he will never make a fen dog ..hes been blown to bits down there too....but hes never looked like jacking ....took good numbers on the lamp ..night after night ....plus other quarry..the first time he took any quarry he took it like he had been doing it a an age ,,,,he would work of the slip hunting up what ever there was about fur or feather,,,,big and small..... this pic was took last year ... Iv seen a lot of dogs run over the years , some very good allrounders , but i can honestly say as an allrounder this ugly f****r is about the best iv seen , i waited for seasons to see him jack on the fens and he never once looked like stopping , even when he got totally blown away , massive hearted dog he is , he proved all of us wrong , iv watched him lamp aswel, very good honest animal !!!! [ Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 best allrounder sive saw are colie saluk type very good and dependable weather big feilds small feild on all types of qaurry ,but they got the chances , Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 ive got a saluki lurcher x lurcher ... 5 seasons under his belt and hes been what i call a proper honest dog ...hes ran up and down the country on allsorts and never let me down on the lamp or daytime ..ive let him down a time or too ,,,running him to hard ,,,,but his heart is massive...for what i have run him on alot of dogs would of thrown the towel in.....hes had some real stick running on ground and i will quote what a mate said ..he wouldnt run a cat on it .. never been a fan of ferreting so for that reason he aint to good ....his feet arnt the best no more...but he still fills the freezer when hes asked to ..great with other dogs people kids...what i call an allrounder ..thers a few lads who have been out with this dog and nobody has had a bad word to say about him ever... hes had 4 out of 5 on the fen in december but he will never make a fen dog ..hes been blown to bits down there too....but hes never looked like jacking ....took good numbers on the lamp ..night after night ....plus other quarry..the first time he took any quarry he took it like he had been doing it a an age ,,,,he would work of the slip hunting up what ever there was about fur or feather,,,,big and small..... this pic was took last year ... Iv seen a lot of dogs run over the years , some very good allrounders , but i can honestly say as an allrounder this ugly f****r is about the best iv seen , i waited for seasons to see him jack on the fens and he never once looked like stopping , even when he got totally blown away , massive hearted dog he is , he proved all of us wrong , iv watched him lamp aswel, very good honest animal !!!! [ Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 fooking hell roberto have you been on the pop ..your usally a right crabbing fooker... ...hes not that ugly either ....just a bit ugly ... Quote Link to post
ROBERTO M 350 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Lmao , he is what he is , at least if he has a bad day he aint in the f*****g huff with the whole world lol Quote Link to post
WILF 48,383 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Whatever he is, you have got that dog in good order Snoopy.....you put time into him as well, I remember the pictures you used to put up when it was a pup.......at least its not totally gay looking like "Chase-me" owned by a certain messer on here! LOL You can tell the seasons over when the "All Rounder" threads start appearing lol Quote Link to post
tommarshall 4 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Alright Chaps. What is thought of as a good "all rounder" ? What should the dog be "tts to be considered a good all rounder ? Also what relevance does the height to the shoulder have on the speed of the dog, both take off and top speed ? I.e. does taller generally mean faster ? Thanks, Tom. its a hard one mate, its peoples preference usually, i have a deer hound bull x grey he is 29 to the shoulder and i will class him as a all rounder for me, he is extremely game, and catches a fair few bunnies through the season, its down to preference mate. Quote Link to post
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