TOPPER 1,809 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 p3d thanks for putting the pic up of old joe i was looking for it as i have it here i can agree with you that most modern bedys don t look anything like a proper bedy should those in the pic could be dogs in my yard as my bedys look like that not the fluff ball brigade you see the KC call bedys , crossed with poodle, bichon, whippet etc etc . i dont believe there is such a thing as a pure bedlington , ive been around bedys for 50 years and seen all manner of crossed bedy some ok some not but i have fell blood in my stock and that works for me , matulkoh likes my stuff as he came in whilst over picking his 3/4 bedy 1/4 fell [black dog in pic] and is talking about using one of my dogs as a stud dog and i have an invite to go over and hunt with him of which iam only to happy to take him up on next season but all UK bedys have some sort of cross in them G N used lakelands and borders some people used glen of immal some patterdales and some used jrt every one to there own , but the main cross for a bedy is the fell as this seems to throw consietant and the dogs produced do the job , just my take on things yis top Quote Link to post
p3d 879 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 p3d thanks for putting the pic up of old joe i was looking for it as i have it here i can agree with you that most modern bedys don t look anything like a proper bedy should those in the pic could be dogs in my yard as my bedys look like that not the fluff ball brigade you see the KC call bedys , crossed with poodle, bichon, whippet etc etc . i dont believe there is such a thing as a pure bedlington , ive been around bedys for 50 years and seen all manner of crossed bedy some ok some not but i have fell blood in my stock and that works for me , matulkoh likes my stuff as he came in whilst over picking his 3/4 bedy 1/4 fell [black dog in pic] and is talking about using one of my dogs as a stud dog and i have an invite to go over and hunt with him of which iam only to happy to take him up on next season but all UK bedys have some sort of cross in them G N used lakelands and borders some people used glen of immal some patterdales and some used jrt every one to there own , but the main cross for a bedy is the fell as this seems to throw consietant and the dogs produced do the job , just my take on things yis top If your dogs look like the one in the photo, It's my guess your doing something right. The Fell / Bedlington seems like a good choice, old photos of Tommy Dobson show dogs with that mix. I don't know enough about the breed, but the show people are not doing it any favours the way they trim the coat. It is a pity to see what the show people have done to so many terriers. It's good that there are guys like matulkoh and yourself working to keep it alive. ATB Quote Link to post
oohmydog 82 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I hope the future holds well for the bedlington ,they have suffered from to many experts and not enought work ,there are some acters and some good lads own them but the only way is to breed of good earth dogs not 5 minute wonders and jibbers ,if you breed shit to shit you will end up with a pile of it Quote Link to post
matulkoh 66 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 fortunately there are more of us and there some good proven dogs. topps Britt is 7/8 beddy 1/8fell but it s no important. those dogs in pic it s not my cup of tea, too wide in chest. Quote Link to post
hack 301 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 fortunately there are more of us and there some good proven dogs. topps Britt is 7/8 beddy 1/8fell but it s no important. those dogs in pic it s not my cup of tea, too wide in chest. obviously both you and topper know your stuff on the bedlingtons and thats great for the breed just wondering what height they are fully grown Quote Link to post
mad terrier 9 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 an interesting topic alright, fancy one getting on of these when the old dogs dead and gone as a replacement house dog, still struggle to view them as workers, mostly cause all ive seen of them is the KC stuff. Quote Link to post
matulkoh 66 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 fortunately there are more of us and there some good proven dogs. topps Britt is 7/8 beddy 1/8fell but it s no important. those dogs in pic it s not my cup of tea, too wide in chest. obviously both you and topper know your stuff on the bedlingtons and thats great for the breed just wondering what height they are fully grown dog is 40,5cm, bitch 38,5cm, britt 38,5-39cm. all are small in chest smaller like 30cm black dogs. Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 all my bedlingtons run 13==14 inch tts and do the job they were bred for EARTHWORK Quote Link to post
hack 301 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 all my bedlingtons run 13==14 inch tts and do the job they were bred for EARTHWORK sound like exellent dogs to me atb with them Quote Link to post
BULL 74 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 So the lines of heard about years ago granitor,rillington,gutchcommon are these working lines or k.c and if k.c do they still work is this. the bloodlines used in the non k.c stuff that is working any info appreciative. Quote Link to post
matulkoh 66 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 So the lines of heard about years ago granitor,rillington,gutchcommon are these working lines or k.c and if k.c do they still work is this. the bloodlines used in the non k.c stuff that is working any info appreciative. granitor, gutchcommon are KC, rillington used to be working line, i don t know any workers from these lines in recent time. worker=earth dog Quote Link to post
Rey27 83 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 never seen any beddy's work (apart from videos) but would like to see some from good working lines in the flesh! Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Someone was banging on about KC Bedlingtons as viable working terriers on the Working Bedlington Forum, so the question was asked - how many members actually properly work their KC reg dogs - I think there was only one reply. When will some people learn that registration with the KC means a closed stud book and breeding for looks, movement etc. The Kennel Club and working terriers are not compatible! Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 KC show shite and proper working bedlingtons never should mix as david said there not compatable Quote Link to post
bristol tim 135 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 fortunately there are more of us and there some good proven dogs. topps Britt is 7/8 beddy 1/8fell but it s no important. those dogs in pic it s not my cup of tea, too wide in chest. obviously both you and topper know your stuff on the bedlingtons and thats great for the breed just wondering what height they are fully grown topper? Quote Link to post
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