most people would like to work after 65 years of age

[hily 380]

AT SCHOOL WE HAD A CAREERS ADVISER told our lot you are factory fodder or the pit i accept that as i am not that bright thats the way it is but to be at work for more than fifty years can't be right as stated if we retire early then we give younger people a chance for work. my logic is that now we live longer the money people don't want to give us our money back that we have invested in there pot so they can make more money . at one time many workers did'nt live past 65 and a lot died before that so the boys with the money paid out very little.me thinks they want there cake and eat it.

[the_stig 6,614]

AT SCHOOL WE HAD A CAREERS ADVISER told our lot you are factory fodder or the pit i accept that as i am not that bright thats the way it is but to be at work for more than fifty years can't be right as stated if we retire early then we give younger people a chance for work. my logic is that now we live longer the money people don't want to give us our money back that we have invested in there pot so they can make more money . at one time many workers did'nt live past 65 and a lot died before that so the boys with the money paid out very little.me thinks they want there cake and eat it.

i took the advice of my grandad and took out a couple of private pensions cashed one in that ment i could semi retire last year the other i cant get my hands for another 2 years but it will mean if i wanted i could fully retire and if we down size we`ll have a decent amount of cash to enjoy early retirement 10 years early i dont envy anyone having to work beyond 60 ..i seen my dad my uncles all work long stupid hours and then die before thr 70 not for me bit of fishing walks with the dogs and long holidays more my scene ... Edited April 4, 2011 by the_stig

[steveS.Yorks 161]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

[Ratreeper 441]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

[the_stig 6,614]

AT SCHOOL WE HAD A CAREERS ADVISER told our lot you are factory fodder or the pit i accept that as i am not that bright thats the way it is but to be at work for more than fifty years can't be right as stated if we retire early then we give younger people a chance for work. my logic is that now we live longer the money people don't want to give us our money back that we have invested in there pot so they can make more money . at one time many workers did'nt live past 65 and a lot died before that so the boys with the money paid out very little.me thinks they want there cake and eat it.

my mates 61 works in an animal food factory packing been in the same job 20 years , his backs fecked he struggles to get outta bed some days his son is 30 fit and well and cant get a job ...

[hily 380]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

here's an example my dad was a bevan boy worked all his life in the pit redundant at 57 died at 59

[the_stig 6,614]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

i agree wih you the 80s n 90s whr good to me and i took advantage of it ..if your paying a grand a month in tax you must be on some good wedge so why cant you save .. ?

my lads both run new cars and a market van they are both in full time jobs and run a weekend market buisness they both have 3 weeks abroad hols every year eat out 3 nights a week out on the beer most nights top teles and hi fi gear top make cloaths and neither of have feck all saved for a house or anything else ...

[hily 380]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

here's an example my dad was a bevan boy worked all his life in the pit redundant at 57 died at 59 ratreeper you still don't get it 50 years at work is to much you are side lineing the issue the money men who most will be graduates have made a bollucks of the banking system not people who have paid into pensions as for harder lives i think we all know that each generation has it better than the last i have it better than my father a he had it better than his as you say its just an opinion but the statistics back me up.

[hily 380]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

here's an example my dad was a bevan boy worked all his life in the pit redundant at 57 died at 59 ratreeper you still don't get it 50 years at work is to much you are side lineing the issue the money men who most will be graduates have made a bollucks of the banking system not people who have paid into pensions as for harder lives i think we all know that each generation has it better than the last i have it better than my father a he had it better than his as you say its just an opinion but the statistics back me up.

[danw 1,748]

It amazes me that no one see's the hypocrisy of moaning about the cost of living from sat behind a computer next you will be moaning your Ipod costs too much and that xbox games are too expensive Ohh yea and those nice new trainers cost a bomb didnt they.

 

Some want to get f*****g real during the strikes men had f**k all the electric didnt even stay on all week go back to your starbucks coffee and grow the f**k up

[Kay 3,709]

AT SCHOOL WE HAD A CAREERS ADVISER told our lot you are factory fodder or the pit i accept that as i am not that bright thats the way it is but to be at work for more than fifty years can't be right as stated if we retire early then we give younger people a chance for work. my logic is that now we live longer the money people don't want to give us our money back that we have invested in there pot so they can make more money . at one time many workers did'nt live past 65 and a lot died before that so the boys with the money paid out very little.me thinks they want there cake and eat it.

i took the advice of my grandad and took out a couple of private pensions cashed one in that ment i could semi retire last year the other i cant get my hands for another 2 years but it will mean if i wanted i could fully retire and if we down size we`ll have a decent amount of cash to enjoy early retirement 10 years early i dont envy anyone having to work beyond 60 ..i seen my dad my uncles all work long stupid hours and then die before thr 70 not for me bit of fishing walks with the dogs and long holidays more my scene ...

 

 

My dad did the same he worked for british rail all his working life.. he has just turned 70 & been retired for 15 years ..

 

Br invested the money in works of art seems it was well invested because they live a very comfortable life ..

[Ideation 8,217]

I reckon less of the b*****ds should go to uni, all most of them do is get pissed and try to get laid, which they could do on the weekends and do some real work in the week. Does my head in, most of them don't give a f**k about what they are studying, its just a chance to not work, rack up a debt and party. Alright except that we're paying for it with tax, and when their done they cant get a job anyhow.

 

And you know this because ...

 

Cos i signed up for uni thinking it would be a great academic experiance only to realise about 30 min in that they were a bunch of posh, rich, c**ts, who hated me. So i just went fishing instead.

 

I still don't buy that we have it tough now, lets face it the kids i see whos folks are on benefits etc, always have a mobile (new), x box, latest trainers. Some have always and will always have it tougher / easier than others, but now theres a security blanket to make it all better.

 

I think many folks expectations of what is 'neccessity' have changed, most of the shit they think they have a right to, are f*****g luxurys.

[Kay 3,709]

I reckon less of the b*****ds should go to uni, all most of them do is get pissed and try to get laid, which they could do on the weekends and do some real work in the week. Does my head in, most of them don't give a f**k about what they are studying, its just a chance to not work, rack up a debt and party. Alright except that we're paying for it with tax, and when their done they cant get a job anyhow.

 

And you know this because ...

 

Cos i signed up for uni thinking it would be a great academic experiance only to realise about 30 min in that they were a bunch of posh, rich, c**ts, who hated me. So i just went fishing instead.

 

I still don't buy that we have it tough now, lets face it the kids i see whos folks are on benefits etc, always have a mobile (new), x box, latest trainers. Some have always and will always have it tougher / easier than others, but now theres a security blanket to make it all better.

 

I think many folks expectations of what is 'neccessity' have changed, most of the shit they think they have a right to, are f*****g luxurys.

 

 

Life was a lot harder when my gran was in her 30's she had 3 kids & both parents bed ridden to care for .. my grandad worked down the pit or on the land .. poultry farms or tarmacking

 

My gran wouldnt have accepted a penny from anywhere if it had been there to take.. it was a pride thing

[Malt 379]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

 

You make a valid point about the house prices granted, but try telling the millions of steelworkers, miners, fishermen, ship builders who lost their jobs that it was easier to get a job then. There are more jobs available in the UK today than there ever has been, it's just harder to get them with more competition for them.

[steveS.Yorks 161]

"if you are at uni and don't get a job untill you are in your twentys will you be expected to work when you are 70 +"

 

Yes, my generation no doubt will be working far longer than you, and without a pension. Also my generation pays more to live, can't buy houses, can't get any finance/mortgage and many can't get jobs. So sorry if I don't shed a tear for your plight of being a manual worker who pays tax. If its really about that, no offence but manual work doesn't generally pay as well, so you probably won't have paid as much in those 50 years as someone on a decent salary pays in 5.

 

Sorry, just sick of people complaining when your generation have had it very easy indeed.

 

 

Very good...

 

Do you realise how daft it sounds moaning about having to pay more for the cost of living these days when the wages have more than gone up in proportion to make up for it? Despite the current economic situation, the general public's quality of life is much better now than it was when I was growing up...

 

I don't know how you can say that anybody who can remember living through the bad times of the ''s has 'had it very easy indeed.'

 

I think its a fair bet ratreeper kisses Maggies picture every night Malt Wonder what contribution to society he makes?

 

Here's an example. My dad bought his first house for less than £14k and got a mortgage with no deposit and two part-time jobs. He sold it for a profit, got another for £36 and sold that 10 years later for £150k+, now owns his house and is happily retired.

I am 23, and pay about a grand a month in tax. The average house is about £150k and you would need a minimum 10% deposit to even get a look at a mortgage. It's impossible for most people to save this amount and also afford to rent.

 

So do I think you had it easier? f*****g yes I do. It was MUCH easier to get a job, easier to get a house and less competition in general. Remember this is just my opinion before someone gets insulting, but the statistics back me up.

 

Despite what you think ratreeper it was'nt "easier to get a job" or at least in the 's it was'nt,i brought my kids up during the Thatcher reign of terror in S.Yorks and if you could find work the wages were shite,you were literally better off on the dole and poaching game,it was that good we f....d off to Germany leaving our families to try and make ends meet,come winter back on the dole and poaching/scrap,not complaining because i learned a lot from it.

 

Now i own my own company,i employ 8 people and use contractors [im still skint] we pay a shitload of tax and get no breaks from anywhere,oh and i did own my own house,rolled the dice on it to start the company.Your first post looks like a "put down" of manual workers,plenty of whom died and grafted so you could get an education and decent job [whats up scared to tell us what you do?] maybe you should bear that in mind the next time you start feeling superior.

 

ps dont worry about it to much,being a know it all prick is part of growing up,weve all done it at some time.