littlefish 596 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 what breed is the dog? Did you pay the 50quid? And why did your dog shake an old lady's dog on the lead? who said old lady .... and the young lady and her dog walk past my house every day with her dog yappin thro the fence at my dog and she tells mine to f***in shut up... i no it is not good but hay i appoligised and agreed to pay the bill .. Sorry, lady, old lady. Ah the plot thickens. What she allows her dog to goad your dog, that is why your dog shook her dog. I know its wrong but maybe there is a lesson to be learnt for her? not that she'll see it like that. In the eyes of the law she is probably in the stronger position because her dog was on a lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pongopalmer 19 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 what breed is the dog? Did you pay the 50quid? And why did your dog shake an old lady's dog on the lead? who said old lady .... and the young lady and her dog walk past my house every day with her dog yappin thro the fence at my dog and she tells mine to f***in shut up... i no it is not good but hay i appoligised and agreed to pay the bill .. Sorry, lady, old lady. Ah the plot thickens. What she allows her dog to goad your dog, that is why your dog shook her dog. I know its wrong but maybe there is a lesson to be learnt for her? not that she'll see it like that. to be honest mate am surprised the dog didnt grab her u should here the mouth on her .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pongopalmer 19 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 what breed is the dog? Did you pay the 50quid? And why did your dog shake an old lady's dog on the lead? who said old lady .... and the young lady and her dog walk past my house every day with her dog yappin thro the fence at my dog and she tells mine to f***in shut up... i no it is not good but hay i appoligised and agreed to pay the bill .. Sorry, lady, old lady. Ah the plot thickens. What she allows her dog to goad your dog, that is why your dog shook her dog. I know its wrong but maybe there is a lesson to be learnt for her? not that she'll see it like that. In the eyes of the law she is probably in the stronger position because her dog was on a lead. i no that mate like i said if i new the dog was there i would ov had him on his lead .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,389 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Well imo once the vet bill was paid and they had there moan then it's over and done with and if they start getting the old bill involved i'd tell the old bill they threatened me for the money,threatened to shoot my dog and i'd have a couple of witness's to say the same.Then i'd suggest to the dog owners just call it a silly accident or your'll push for a nicking against them.Demanding monies with menace is a far more serious crime than not keeping your dog under control,but thats just me and i'll protect my dogs at any costs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pongopalmer 19 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Well imo once the vet bill was paid and they had there moan then it's over and done with and if they start getting the old bill involved i'd tell the old bill they threatened me for the money,threatened to shoot my dog and i'd have a couple of witness's to say the same.Then i'd suggest to the dog owners just call it a silly accident or your'll push for a nicking against them.Demanding monies with menace is a far more serious crime than not keeping your dog under control,but thats just me and i'll protect my dogs at any costs. ive had a couple of ideas like that me self mate. i posted the topic to c were i stood with the law because like you i will protect my dogs at any cost there was no way i was leting any 1 take him uniform or not . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chook Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The police should just give you a warning dog on dog is basicaly a cival matter, they should give you a warning about the dog being out of controal but solong as you state that you will leash up your dog from now on on leaving your home, and you have appoligised and paid there vet bill it shouldnt realy be taken any further. http://www.doglaw.co.uk/legal/dangerous.php Section 2 Dogs Act 1871 This is a civil complaint, although as it is heard in a Magistrates' Court, it is often (wrongly) said to be criminal. It occurs if a dog is not kept under proper control and is dangerous. Generally is dog is regarded as not being under proper control if it is neither on a lead nor muzzled. Unlike Section 3 of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991: * it applies regardless of where the incident takes place * proceedings can only be brought against the owner * a dog can show itself to be dangerous in its general behaviour, not just its behaviour towards a person * a single incident is generally insufficient to prove that a dog is dangerous, unless the Court believes that the single incident is exceptional * there is no presumption in favour of destruction of the dog * the Police have no power to seize a dog pending proceedings * the Court has no power to fine or order compensation The Court has unfettered discretion on what to do to the dog. They may order destruction of the dog but such orders are very rare. The alternative is a Control Order (with or without conditions) and the owner will probably have to pay costs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pongopalmer 19 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The police should just give you a warning dog on dog is basicaly a cival matter, they should give you a warning about the dog being out of controal but solong as you state that you will leash up your dog from now on on leaving your home, and you have appoligised and paid there vet bill it shouldnt realy be taken any further. http://www.doglaw.co.uk/legal/dangerous.php Section 2 Dogs Act 1871 This is a civil complaint, although as it is heard in a Magistrates' Court, it is often (wrongly) said to be criminal. It occurs if a dog is not kept under proper control and is dangerous. Generally is dog is regarded as not being under proper control if it is neither on a lead nor muzzled. Unlike Section 3 of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991: * it applies regardless of where the incident takes place * proceedings can only be brought against the owner * a dog can show itself to be dangerous in its general behaviour, not just its behaviour towards a person * a single incident is generally insufficient to prove that a dog is dangerous, unless the Court believes that the single incident is exceptional * there is no presumption in favour of destruction of the dog * the Police have no power to seize a dog pending proceedings * the Court has no power to fine or order compensation The Court has unfettered discretion on what to do to the dog. They may order destruction of the dog but such orders are very rare. The alternative is a Control Order (with or without conditions) and the owner will probably have to pay costs thanks for the info mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rikjd 8 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 ye the key point being they have no power to seize the your dog, thats where they often trick people saying they have to sign a load of paperwork and before you know it youve signed you dog over, hopefully the bloke in your case was just having a moan and wont actually report it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 You can have a half-hour talk with a solicitor free under legal aid. Monday morning make some calls. You need to get the law on the case. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olim 28 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I would advise you to seriously consider why you have a dog that attacks other dogs in such an aggresive way regardless of if the jrt barks or not, it was a public place and you are badly in the wrong, If it was my jrt I would probably of dealt with the dog myself by now. Put yourself in their shoes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 what breed is the dog? Did you pay the 50quid? 22 Answers on and still not answered the question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny 29 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 send your dog away to a friend for a month. Tell your kids if they cry when you tell them you will buy them a treat. Take them round to the jrt owner tell them you had the dog put down. In a month get your dog back and buy him a big pink collar and say you got a bitch. Try to never have him loose out the front of your house again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt_hooks 188 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 what breed is the dog? Did you pay the 50quid? 22 Answers on and still not answered the question Yes he did, post number 7! Yes he paid, and it's an English Bull Terrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earthmover2011 94 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 good one that skinny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chook Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 send your dog away to a friend for a month. Tell your kids if they cry when you tell them you will buy them a treat. Take them round to the jrt owner tell them you had the dog put down. In a month get your dog back and buy him a big pink collar and say you got a bitch. Try to never have him loose out the front of your house again. Why would he need to do that - nothing is going to happen to his dog!! he may get a warning from the police because the dog was off lead and not under proper controal on a public road/street but unless the owner of that dog takes him to court, then nothing further should happen. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23808316-dog-attack-owner-calls-for-change-to-law.do Ms Bray, from Charlton, criticised legislation, which means owners cannot be prosecuted if a dog attacks another dog. She said: “The shocking fact is that this animal has been left in the charge of someone who is not able to control it.†A police spokeswoman said: “This is a dog-versus-dog incident that's not covered by the Dangerous Dogs Act. The procedure is for the victim to attend a magistrates' court [to bring action].†Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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