kobidog 1 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 The last few times i have been fishing i have been pluaged with silver fish. I have been targeting tench and bream of any size and carp ranging from about 5-10lb, i have been using an open ended feeder and method feeder packed with groundbait and 2 grains of sweetcorn on the hook.I have also float fished sweetcorn, worm and pellets The problem though is that every chuck i am greeeted by loads of small roach which mop up my hookbait and loosefeed before the larger fish can get there , i know that there are large carp and tench in this lake but how can i catch them!? Quote Link to post
Guest arch1 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Try feeding them off. A lake near me had largish Bream in it. But no matter how you fished it you always got the small stuff first, them the Skimmers turned up, then eventually the big boys. I just kept feeding via either a larger feeder or by a catty and kept at it. It worked in the end for me. Another thing, try cutting out the fishmeal, everywhere you go these days has had tons of fishmeal chucked in, all the fish seem to be on it. Try a different groundbait, a sweet one. Bream used to like that. Best of luck, pictures required when you catch. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,415 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Now and again I fish a lake that has plenty of tench and tons of small rudd. To target the tench I feed small pellets with a soft tutti frutti pellet on the hook. I've had up to 16 tench in a morning with no rudd. Using maggots I've had 100s of small rudd with no tench. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Don't mess about mate, get a big 'ol pellet hair rigged and im sure you won't be pestered by "bits"... Quote Link to post
RaiderBoy 19 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Don't mess about mate, get a big 'ol pellet hair rigged and im sure you won't be pestered by "bits"... Perfect answer that any rudd that can take down a banded 8mm halibut pellet is a rudd worth catching Richard Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,415 Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Thats the way you's boys have to do it but the day I have to use a hair rig on an Irish water is the day I'll give it up, LOL. Mind you, I swore I'd never use pellets. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Thats the way you's boys have to do it but the day I have to use a hair rig on an Irish water is the day I'll give it up, LOL. Mind you, I swore I'd never use pellets. Neil, With the pellets you mostly need to use a hair mate if your'e going to use a hard pellet (as in this instance). Likewise on the rivers, without a hair it would be difficult to present the pellet and have any degree of confidence it is still on the hook! It took us barbel anglers many decades to get onto the hair, we were trapped in the mists of time with the old faithful "luncheon meat" and casters, but we have mostly all moved on now and the hair is now part and parcel of where i now fish. Saying that, i still don't like it for chub.. Quote Link to post
richc12 84 Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 catmeats another good bait for the carp mate now the waters getting warmer.... feed a couple of tins straight off and fish over it, try hemp in with the loose feed... atb. rich Quote Link to post
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 neutrel bouyency fake sweet corn,as opposed to pop up or sinking stuff. Some of the artificial bait are quite good these days.. Quote Link to post
John-B 4 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 2x 10mm boilies hair rigged Quote Link to post
kobidog 1 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 THankyou, i will try some of these tomorrow. Quote Link to post
PeakOil 352 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 French Maize - soak in water for 36 hours, then boil for 30 - 45 mins. Hook / hair rig like sweetcorn only hard enough to withstand small roach / rudd. Quote Link to post
steve66 3,185 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Thats the way you's boys have to do it but the day I have to use a hair rig on an Irish water is the day I'll give it up, LOL. Mind you, I swore I'd never use pellets. Neil, With the pellets you mostly need to use a hair mate if your'e going to use a hard pellet (as in this instance). Likewise on the rivers, without a hair it would be difficult to present the pellet and have any degree of confidence it is still on the hook! It took us barbel anglers many decades to get onto the hair, we were trapped in the mists of time with the old faithful "luncheon meat" and casters, but we have mostly all moved on now and the hair is now part and parcel of where i now fish. Saying that, i still don't like it for chub.. Why dont you like them for chub ? is it because of deep hooking ? Quote Link to post
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