you could always go and see the farmer without yer dog and have a crack with him,he might be in a different mood, you never know you might come away with some new permission, its always better to have the farmer on side,ive got 4500acre of permission and i can come and go as i please, without any trouble, but having said that they can be the most fickle, cantankerous b*****ds ever to walk the fields, as there is a couple round here that wont give me time of day, due to hassle they had yers ago, with other dog lads so dont let the f****r walk all over yer, but its for the best if you can meet h