Joe1888
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Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? Would Scotland risk it though ? They need one or the other and the EU wouldn't say yes or no until they applied. yes because voters were made many promises that werent honoured, uk no longer offers security, solidarity and stability
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Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? No Spain would veto them. it was mentioned before, that only a majority might only be needed today it was confirmed scotland could be placed in a "transitional holding pen" after article 50 is triggered wich could prevent scotland having to reapply
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Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk?
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could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it?
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i asked a basic question, not my fault the thread has run on for pages.. happy enough to leave it for now, if another ref is confirmed, maybe we can discuss it then
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better together/ no will struggle to win the next indy ref campain. they ignored 70% of the voters and focused on the 30% undecided.. they did what they had to do to win, the research,tactics and key message was a lie... proven to be, those tactics wont work a second time round, maybe in 50 years, but if we get another indyref so soon after the last, people will remember!
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its still higher than it was, was also a another poll done at the same time, results were more in favour of yes if it was the other way around, yous would be telling me, its just a poll, dont read to much into it... once scots see the damage brexit causes up here, will see more support for yes.. give it time
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is that big clint .? It is indeed, as Filo Bedoe in Anywhich way but loose. right turn clyde
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dogs thinking wtf caption time.. one or two members here that should be able to help you, good luck with it mate
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ill finaly get a copy lol pm sent
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good to see you back on ya rangers hun cu** it will happen one day mate, sooner the better
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No way I'm I suggesting that Scotland is a bunch of spastics who can't do things, history has shown that's not the case.....but that ugly bitch Sturgeon claims she wants independence but then wants to sell you down the river by joining the EU whereby you will no longer have independence.......that's the bit I'm not getting? I'm saying they are! they've nearly bankrupted their country twice. This independence thing will be the third and last time. Ffs there are some real idiots in this world are you still blaming scotland for the banking crisis, didnt we clear that one up aswell?
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No way I'm I suggesting that Scotland is a bunch of spastics who can't do things, history has shown that's not the case.....but that ugly bitch Sturgeon claims she wants independence but then wants to sell you down the river by joining the EU whereby you will no longer have independence.......that's the bit I'm not getting? WJK has also said there would need to be a massive wave of immigration to Scotland to make their plans work, so there is clearly a skill shortage.. the same could be said for the uk, doctors, surgeons not sturgeons etc etc etc
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If the eu and uk do a trade deal similar to norways then trade between the uk and iscotland would be unafected by leaving the uk political union as we would still have a trading union without the uk plus all the benefits of eu membership and grants
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your making out scotland has nothing, no skills, without england it would be.... scottish whisky, more than 4.3 billion and the uks biggest food and drinks export, but is classed as english ... so on record it doesnt show as scottish natural resources, oil and gas will continue to make money for many more years come renewable engry, classed at the saudi arabia of renewables if scotland were to become independent, we wouldnt have the skills to build cars etc etc??? we wouldnt have the skills for the london finace sector when it needs to move???? our people are uns
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plenty small countries doing just fine, ones with even less going for them than scotland.. thats if spain do mate, we dont have all the answers, can only make up our minds with the information provided.. What countries are doing fine? switzerland sweeden norway singapore new zealand ireland are recovering well am sure theres a few more my point is, if scotland did vote to leave... it wouldnt be the end, many small nations do well, scotland is no 3rd world country, there would be a defecit and debt, like near enough every nation.. doesnt mean it would be the end of the wor
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what is the uks current defecit and debt?, how about most of the modern world... except norway those stats are part of uk, if we leave, we have different choices to make instead of being tied to the uk also pointed out there and in the indy ref many many times, scotland would also save alot of money, money that it currently that sends down south, that isnt included in those figures
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plenty small countries doing just fine, ones with even less going for them than scotland.. thats if spain do mate, we dont have all the answers, can only make up our minds with the information provided..
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the force is still strong, talk of vote in ireland grows aswell, if we are to belive polls, reckon its at 65% in favour of a united ireland http://www.newstalk.com/Poll-finds-65-would-support-united-Ireland-if-referendum-were-to-be-held-tomorrow
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what was the age group questioned in that? from today, support is strong, and will grow more in the next few months
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ive since dug i out abit more to improve level, its not 100% level, question is does it need to be? am thinking if its abit uneven, it should be ok once hardcore it spread and compact/ and made level instead of wacking down the muck, going to wack down the hard core in two layers?
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if you mean the uk pays for it all then thats been debunked many times, its a myth that scotlands to wee, to poor... britan is a political union that no longer works, look at the mess the uk is in, how can you argue thats the best way forward.. theres only one way the uk is going, its a similar story to the titanic.. the time will no doubt come, scotland will be able to make its own choices, choose a different path, hopefully with our neighbours support
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If you leave the union you WILL lose the work, it's an established Defence policy. Remaining in the Union is guaranteeing work and in all probability the 2015 SDSR will result in more work due to the commitment to optimise the frigate fleet and increase the total combat fleet. It's right to remain dubious and maintain political pressure to ensure you get the volume of work promised in 2014, but to call this a failed promise and demanding that you build 13 GCSs is cutting your nose off to spite your face. There's a very good chance this move will in fact result in more ships being built at
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mushroom, i expected you pages ago mate... i dont agree with everything you have listed there, i think we debated those things many times, it always ended up with you throwing toys out the pram , saying youd never reply to me again, then a few days later id normaly see a post from you.. i only wish yes side had won, then you could maybe prove you were right.. if an indyref2 comes, i look forward to debating with you
