I have always stated that mine are lamp dogs ONLY Tommy ,i'm not saying they wouldn't catch on the big land but it's not my thing mate .It was as i said earlier Tommy,the Judy bitch was a machine on the Fens yet wasn't worth a carrot up here,the lad who i do my hunting with bought a dog off Nuttall stuff could kill up here ok but gave it a whirl on the lamp and he had to carry it home,totally different types of dog for totally different types of work .What i do with my dogs isn't everyones cup of tea but it is MINE and to be honest i don't give a flying **** what anyone else thinks.Good luc