did you ave a go with them older ones oldtimer 15 years tolong ago for me ? did they look like the newer ones i had 3 till 1 died lasweek and they all looked and acted totaly diffrent but if you have a 30 strong famlie of dogs i ame sure you will get old and new blood in there still if there is a old type it. intrestes me this as i keep nuttal dogs whuld like to see some pics of the older types or hear about some first hand experiance with these dogs also some first hand experiances with the new ones as alot of it i have read on here seems a bit quick to slag the the man and you dont no wha