f*****g headache aint it paul, I that's why and it may be wrong but people that ask advice like duncan has and no offence intened here mate, I advice against using the dog daytime til its started lamping because I've seen a few people f**k up the first dog mooching em before lamping, thinking its all good letting the dog chase the bunnies around using there nose and not practising recall properly at the same time. What I mean is they'll allow the dog to hunt a large section without calling it back and when its finished call it back, the dog then finds this acceptable. So if your on taking her