hey up lads , thanks for the comments, Well after posting my pic last night, they both went outside to ablute, then into there kennel about 12ish, come 5 oclock i woke bosting fer a jimmy, so i stopped up, opened kennel door expecting to clean up after the pup, nowt doing, but she was ready, straight onto the back garden, and had a goodun, back in for breakfast, then cracked down again for another couple of hours, i often wondered and hoped the event of having this pup, would be greater than the anticipation, and yes it is, i love her to bits, follows me every weer,