because Mr Richardson, this is meant to be the hunting life, not the ultimate clown experience. i have no problem atall with young folk learning the trade and will do everything within my power to help them, but only ones with the right attitude. a 16 year old has no ground to spurt miss leading information from a background based on not working dogs. as for belittleing her, if she wants to pretend she know the game then she has to play the game. funny how most 16 year olds post in the young hunters section and enjoy themselves, read the post in the other sections but rarely feel the need to c