Right this is my last reply on the subject to you, so take it in max.
Valuev, the russian that fought haye, was well over 300lb, and outweighed hay by 99lb.
Yes, valuev was rubbish, and haye was a small heavyweight, moving up from cruiserweight. Can you not see parallels with fury's career, given that he outweighs ALL hus opponents by at least 2 stone?! Not really that fair is it? Even you must understand that.
Fury, even if he beats joshua, which I don't think he will personally, will NEVER be a GREAT heavyweight. Simply because, in this era, he's had no greats to beat ?