not always dirty black pikeys as you call them , DF has some dogs stolen a few years back and found out who had them a whole load of us went to bromsgrove to get them back ( i was just there as an observer ) and they wernt travllers they were just your every day british chavy scumbag .just remember you get good and bad in all and people on a site like this should know this as we have plenty of tossers that ruin it for the rest of us and give us a bad name .