cheers for all the input ... what i think may work best is try my hardest to get a job and do some sort of the same steps as GD waz, by doing it after work ... just so i know i got pennys coming in anyway ... maybe to close to xmas to start something as i dont really have a great deal of money to put in to it at the min ... and what i do have will go on a good xmas ... but its defo something im going to look into