problem solved took them out just before dark thought i would try them and if it started again i would put her on the lead and tell her off, the started off playing and having a tare about then it turned into a scrap and the timid bitch came out on top
so left them to get on with it, and they where fine no more running into her they are running about together quite happy hopfully thats the end of that , cheers to you all for your idears thanks fezz