Well i tried the lead as a noose & its brilliant , its not stopped her jumping about but its stopped me pannicing about her getting out of her collar , i could just do with a slightly longer lead now & it was so easy to do in a flash & i found her so much easirer to control once the lead was used in this way , i think she was a bit shocked to be honest , she soon lost interest in the other dog & walked lovely
So thanks everyone for the advice , i think i may be geting somewhere now