I'm not havin a dig I just don't see it every great dog that's been bred has thrown shit out somewhere wether it's down to the owner or dog it's turned out to be crap and I'm findin it hard to believe all the pups have been all that with the words u said vertualy no input from the owner so if u put that dog in a kennel till it was 16 month and just took it for a walk it would naturally go catch and retrieve when all dog folk I know put time apon time in to get their dogs to retrieve but like u said she was particular who she sold them to an clearly she sold them to decent folk who put time in