Sorry guys, I should have been a bit clearer .(just read my original chapter and pissed myself laughing at the reply's) I didn't mean that the lorry wing mirror was attached fu**in' wholesale, arm and all!!
The old type wing mirror could be stripped, beading removed and "THE GLASS ONLY", could be Duck taped onto the side of your battery box, leaving your hands free.
Your quite right, it works better at longer distances, and the lip 'n' hand works better at short distances. Whichever way you choose, as long as it works for you, that's the main thing. Sorry for any confusion caused
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