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1 hour ago, dodger said:
Bad that
thats it you see, and type dog today that looks like apbt , they kill right away, but even though i really like the breed, them and staffs , it the damage a apbt can do in seconds , and these big xl bloody thing weighing 70- 100lb , they shold be fookin on a lead and muzzled when out in public, our bull breeds were never of the leads out in public , you just carnt take the bloody risk deff .
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5 hours ago, Black neck said:
Yeah he had this big lurcher wi a few breeds in it ,were a goodun
Yeh deff think it was a bitch, and I think it had some kind pointer in the x, it was real good dog, help finding the rats for him, and worked great with the mink, he puts lot of time in to his animals I like him. He do the same with his bulldog=apbt, as he get a good pup from good dogs being over there anyway.
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4 hours ago, dodger said:
Then you got the opposite side of the spectrum a 20 year old lad check him out so are these guys just born with raw power or what?
Yeh, you Alex lad very good. I've watched him from few years now, he got bigger and stronger deff, not saying he beat the top 4-5 men at this sport, but give most a tough time. When I was younger bloke say mid 30s, I was quite strong for my size 6ft 13 st back then, having done weights, and karate few years. Well one night, I went in a pub not myLocal, but only used couple times. Well there was lot. People in the bar, trying to beat this bloke at arm wrestling, put a quid in the box, and have ago. Well like fool and sober lol, I had a go both hands, left hand he blast me, my weak hand, then I went right hand, I nearly had him down, twice, but he was good, he just held firm, then wallop down it went me hand. I had chat later I bought a pint, even though he mad few quid of the other people. He said I was quite strong for me size being tall slim, he was smaller than me and stocky, strong thick srm/wrists, he said it strength /technique, and it deff is. Gnash should be on soon, he knows fair bit about the sport.
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1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:
Having been around a good number of Pit Bulls many of them superb examples of the breed,ive never met one i would trust around children.....its an absolute nonsense in my mind to put such a sporting dog into a pet home as there are simply other dogs that are better equipped.....what does the APBT offer as a pet dog that other dogs cant do ?.....this is the problem breed enthusiasts such as myself have a hard time with.....people get a dog bred from fighting lineage,turn it into a sweet natured loving pet,and then call it a " good dog " when its never had a tooth in it....ok we live in different times now where the sport isnt acceptable,so leave them for people it is acceptable to and who are willing to make the necessary sacrifices and take the risks needed to TRULY be able to call their dog a " good dog "..........or as the saying says " the further away from the pit you take a fighting dog the more trouble you will have with them "...........and in my opinion the lower you take the standard of the breed in general.
No offence meant to you by the way sometimes you just have to take a strong stance on subjects close to the heart.
good thought thread Gnash on this post mate deff. As you know ive been around few bull breeds over the years , my last apbt as that reid big bitch that i had you seen the pic 20 in 58 lb.Now she from not bad stuff, not as they fast lane stuff, but ok. she was out side in kennel and run . we had staffs in the 60s that were more like pits today, 14-19in - 40- 50lb , my old man talk them for a walk, always on a lead, most time solo, he could walk 2 together , but said they both could fire each up if they seen another, and when they kicked off, they take lot of stopping , and these were not game bred stuff, just old workin lines , that not get in a KC show . yeh pits, are in general good with people , like staffs, but game bred bulldogs, or fit working old line staffs , to dangerous animal if ever they kick off, not a house pet. i can under stand Aussie whip , being stuck out in the sticks , wanting a guard type dog, to = 1st let you know , that somebody knocking about, 2nd to protect if need be.Well a well bred gsd or a dutch Shepard , make great family dogs good with kids, very alert to a any sound , and would die for you, get a 80lb male gsd x dutch shepard , in the house, anybody try to get in they deff bite them. and even though my 1x gsd x grey daft with people/kids , hen young the power of him and his jaw power, he make right mess of anybody if bite them, like did wild animal, so pure gsd x dutch , simlar size you need a gun to kill it , like been said or posion . but in the norm house type thing the inner citys pits not a house pet !!
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4 minutes ago, sionnach99 said:
Look depends what u in to , Not trying to be insulting but there’s a difference between a digging dog and a bushing terrier. You can mix sand and cement with a shovel don’t make it a belle mixer does it . U wouldn’t let a pack of black dogs into cover to flush foxes . You’ll get lurcher that will go to ground in big place doesn’t mean u have a ‘digging lurcher’ horses for courses . Heavy dogs are what they are they aren’t an all rounder. Who in their right mind would let a game bred pitbull or a working Wheaton off loose for bushing and expect to be able to trust them..
just like today on my dog walk, it common ground, so you get lot of dog walkers use it. i try to go out on it after tea time 6-7pm , walk with my old big lurcher Buck , he had couple runs on there the odd fox, but most times nice quite 1 hour walk . seen a bloke and woman walking towards me, they got dark brindle staff , and red/ tan color apbt = bulldog, i knew what it was , as i was brought with bull breeds, and had them before. the dog was only young 10 month old, but pulling like feck on the lead , looking at my dog. the lad said it was mixed breed staff , like feck it was lol. ok he got it on a lead , but i thought, wait till it switches on proper , they know way would walk one over that walk , i know what they like, maybe he thought , he wont get a pull with it there , than round the towns. dont know what the law today owning them , think the law dda changed, when i had my last bitch out of reid stuff 15 year ago.
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On 13/05/2023 at 10:10, tatsblisters said:
Not defending them in any way but i wish the police would be that keen on sorting out the car thieves and house burglaries that's shot up in areas around me rather than put all the time and energy into catching dog lad's to the detriment of more serious crimes that's happening.
spot on, they know that dog men are a easy target , thats why mate , they aint got the balls to tackle proper crime, same as when it kick off with the macho piss heads on Friday / sat night , they might stop daft young birds having go at each other, but go to the blokes 10 mins after kicked off. the thing that, get my back up , is with the badger thing , just because it cute type animal, like they think foxes are, they want to protect the fookin things, instead of culling the things , most farmers dont want them on there ground. kill a brock you get up to 2 years in jail, smack the crap out of some body , or rape a woman , they get let off with mental health probs , and bit of detention lol , laws a joke .
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23 hours ago, bob.243 said:
when look at all the men in the royal family , there either bald or grey, not fookin ginger lol , mind you he is going bald as well, so maybe he still might be Charlie as well , they reckon she was not with him Major Hewitt when harry was born , she met him couple years later, maybe so, but he deff looks like him, and deff not Charlie boy haha. i not really a royal family fan, there are very very privileged people best food, medical care , great homes want for feck all deff, but i did like the old queen . and they bring lot of tourism in the country, which bring few quid every year. when William king in about 14 years time , i think there be quite few changes in the royal, he dont seem bad bloke .
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3 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:
What a fantastic spectacle , so fortunate to see this unfold on the television , sense of wonderment and history .
pomp and pagentry is truly something uniquely British .
True mate, we the best at it. I not one for the royal family me self, always like the queen, Charlie OK suppose that's about. The royal family genrate, lot of tourism in this country, so bring few quid if nothing else, even though they are very very privileged people deff.
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Golden rule, with any sighthound.is always let them think they can catch what's I front of them, more deff a young age. You took it with another dog young age, bad news because, even didn't run much, it still see another dog chase stuff, that's enough to wind them up anyway. Yes some might yap more than others, but don't encourage it. Don't think it ever change, if I was you take it on its own from now on, if lamping forget long slips walk right up to rabbit, so the dog right on top of the rabbit to strike on it. At the end of the day, it what you can. Live with,? It how serious you take it.!
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2 hours ago, Black neck said:
Dingos can go abit
would have thought , most dingos are in a pack, and would fight any dog when in numbers. i remember few years back talking to a bloke on the Oz site, about using pure apbts on wild hogs, he said lot of well bred ( game bred ) pits would try to fight the hog, instead of trying to kill it , not many would just lock on and hold it, there fight fooker his words lol. he was using old English whites abd x pits , or working scot line abd. he said they try kill the hog if not to big, or hold them by the ear, until the hunter to finish it off. he did say to me as well , they killed few wild dogs as well, but had to be careful , as the dogs soon regroup to kill the dog, they were clever and deadly . it have to be real good bullx grey kill a dingo, they come 22-24 in 40 - 60lb , alot bigger than fookin 18lb fox lol
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1 minute ago, bird said:
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Just now, bird said:
yep 100% mate, really enjoyed it ,Selby pushed him the last 3 frames , but Brecel hung on and took his chances , when he could two great players .Brecel, been going the 11 years, and 1st time he won there , great natural talent .
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1 hour ago, Stavross said:
A quality final, Selby had to take some chances taking him out of his comfort zone and it almost paid off, well done to Brecel he really deserved it
yep 100% mate, really enjoyed it ,Selby pushed him the last 3 frames , but Brecel hung on and took his chances , when he could to great players .Brecel, been going the 11 years, and 1st time he won there , great natural talent .
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On 25/04/2023 at 17:10, gnasher16 said:
Maybe its harsh to call it quitting but he stood straight up at the count of 10.....body shots like that can stay with you for rounds but its just physical pain rather than the actual breathlessness panic at the time and you know that will pass....body shots like that are about mental strength and your coping mechanisms.....no i thought it was poor,there was a time when a " no mas " in a world title fight was seen as a disgrace but it seems to more acceptable these days.
Fair point Gnash, and as you say they get there breath back quite quick anway, if he was bit of pain after, he could keep his guard up round his middle, for a round or so, then start getting back at him.
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Good post, never really gone out just for foxes, old Bryn my 1x collie grey could find them in the day, but didn't like the sharp end , Buck could find them in the day as well. Where ever he got them he bring them back to me,. The prob I found with lamping them, was most were fookin lamp shy anyway, funny thing I've walked out at night after edible stuff, a d had couple foxes follow me, he must sent them, and was right on to them, he killed lot of stuff out the beam anyway.
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11 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:
I used to own agile type guard dogs, mostly pit cross types, awesome canines as yours looks to be. As I've got older I've found them too demanding of time and exercise and these days prefer the lazier guard dogs that are happy to lay around and only spring into action when needed. I'll always admire the big athletic dogs though.
wonder if , a Kangal be any good as guard dog? . i know they good at there jobs , keeping bears , wolves away from the goats/ sheep. my mate got a Turkish wife they go to turkey few times a year to see her parents, my mate a lurcher lad , he knows dogs, and got good eye for any type animal. well he told me that on one trip out there , there went up the mountains , and 3 of them loose with the sheep, he said blood hell , they got some size to them, tall and very strong looking but not fat like some the heavy type mastiffs . They work 2-3 kangals as pack of wolves kill one kangal , but 4-6 wolves kill any dog , one to one kangal kill a wolf. when my mate seen them , they started to trot to his motor barking , he said dot know what they do he didnt want to find out haha . i think they great in Oz , with there big open spaces, and be great to keep the dingo's down on sheep farms out there deff , there fast and agile my mate said , put on e of them over your stags, you get great fox dog, and get few rabbits as well .
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5 hours ago, taffey said:
Nice for him ray getting a nice walk and getting hold of something he roll back years now I bet every time he In woods be thinking he in prime again and lock onto something along the walk better than walking round the streets for you both
at taffey my old collie whippet greyhound not far off 12 but still knows every gate on walk were a rabbit may be big white dog 8 I’n august but still bags of drive and energy still knocks few things over in winter
deff mate, it switched him on a bit now lol , that wood he had few munjack, and nice size dogfox from it, dont know where he got the fox from, but he came up the track with in is mouth , just like that tree rat as proud as punch lol . i tell what though the last munjack he got from there , was couple year ago, when he was 8 year old, he chased it got it in the next field . well we all know the bloody noise make, well a woman and her teenage daughter were walking up the track with poodle type thing. the daughter started running up the track, i got over the fence to go to Buck, she said i come with you to get him off, told her stay, there as dont like strangers by him , i deal with it, she bloody hell quick, i got to him, he was on it head, got him off and finished it off . walked back she was there still it there , i said it ran off its ok, she walked off then, i put it in the edge to pick up later lol. close call that, ive had some sport with big lad over the years, and had to be on me toes with him as well when he was younger haha , like your little brown dog, looks bigger than little woody , he 4 1/2 kg prob like small jack , the bit of Chihuahua kept his size down , the little prat lol
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cracker him, and he come on well the way you doing him. should have plenty of pace, stamina, and grit in it, the pit x greys i had were fairly biddable , and ok to train, i think bit of collie in the blood, would help with that .
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2 hours ago, sandymere said:
Be pleased with himself and keep him interested
deff sandy, went today again, when it got quite, he was going through few bushes , he not been like that for quite a while, it deff got him interested , only got se a fox or munjack he deff be up for them, he forget his 10 1/2 years haha , it is shame they get old mate.!
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11 minutes ago, terryd said:
Ha brilliant Ray and they are not easy to catch
There not Terry, he surprised me, how quick he went to the tree. He old now lost that good pace he had, but not lost is killing mindset, anything wild or them bloody feral cats, he was prat for cats lol.
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On 11/04/2023 at 12:13, steve t said:
Nowt fancy but will let no one in house. Labrador x German shepherd
I've said before, that a farm I used go to when I worked old Bryn, they a simlar type x, it was black coat bit thicker than a lab, but size of shepard, big head on it, kept on chain in the day, loosedof at night. This big twat would deff bite you, it had somebody before, who ever it was didn't hang about, blood all over place. You never poach is place, if he came out with that 80lb teeth after you
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Out this with old Buck, and little woody this morning, nice quite did see anybody. Little woody was looking by some bushes, Buck must seen him, he went trotting over, when he ran to a tree, I thought daft bugger prob tree rat. When he came out with it, it must have nipped him, he dropped it lol. Went again and fook me he did shake it lol, last time been bitten by anything, was couple year ago when got a Charlie, and brought it back to me, he bring fox just like a rabbit. He 11 in august like me we both of feckers lol, I let him carry it for a while, he was happy enough, and little woody lol
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Very nice bitch that, how she bred, any wheaten in her, and how tall 25 in?
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20 hours ago, Black neck said:
I have found that a tree tube shaken violently in the direction of the squirrel coupled wi harsh language can at times make them panic and come down even quite high trees
haha , right with most sighthounds and there xs, its getting them winners on all there quarry , ok might be different up a hares backside , but with coursing dogs with good breeding they dont panic they sit back and wait there chance. with rabbits it fast/ quick, so got to put the dog close to berry, so it on the rabbit in seconds, not running like the waterloo cup thing lol , ok if the dog caught fair few and couple season on it collar . ive been very lucky with my last 2 lurchers both been 1xs , both took rabbits day/ night quite easy, bryn was more just rabbits but Buck most things, and in woods day/night god knows how caught stuff at night in there but he did, maybe there got better night time sight than us. now i did have little non ped racing whippet bitch25 years ago , good at the track, good on rabbits day/night , hung on to few hares as well lol , but same if the rabbits no chance, get the dog on quick.
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Met police dog shooting
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as you prob know game bred apbt , you deff know it weight / height, my pit bitch was 20 in 58 lb, she was reid stuff , they be few game dogs in genes more than likely , she was just a pet really, as i like the breed. and as ive said few times on here, we had staffs when i was kid1962 , our staffs were more like some pits to day, as were old black country lines, they go 16-19 in 40lb- 50lb tall leggy fit dogs, no good in a KC show lol. and had Bull mastiffs , my male dog won alot of shows in the 80s, he prob was one of your more healthy ones , big dog but kept him spot on 27in 145 lb , nice head, and not to undershot jaw. But as ive always said the breed was very unhealthy with HD , and bad elbows , and not long lived.It was one of the reasons i went into lurchers in the 1st place, to get a healthy type dog, that had nice temps, and catch your dinner if need be .Old Buck was deff , a dog i enjoyed to take out hunting, more so lamping, which he was spot on for, fill me freezer , and kill few Charlie's and that big size he had deff come in handy some nights lol, he be my last working dog, my next dog in the future will only be a pet, and at my age thats all i need , nice ex worker etc. got a couple of that pit bitch i had , our staffs were bit similar , bit smaller .