had another trip out yesterday with trev, barry (trevs dad) and mathew (trevs oldest son) detination was penrith this week thick frost when we got there started off on some old permision of trevs. then moved onto some new permision across road while ferreting a road side the owner turned up and said you can do my brothers farm as well about acres said all the land around was owned by his family and he would sort the permision out he took trev away to show him some boundries when he came back his face beaming, even done a little dance :boogie: he`l have to do it a bit more rabbits were bolti