andy p 32 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) Excellent thank you all fir your help I'll try and pull him round with the advice I've been given I've been told there's nothing I can do and he will die but a don't want to give up on the the lad thanks again Edited June 10, 2012 by andy p 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnys 1,228 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 all these tips are good advice but this may be bacterial if the case hell need antibiotics , atb bunnys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Speaking form a pigeon man, as all birds get the same disease's, its all good and well guessing whats wrong and blind treating, but with the wrong treatments can cause more harm than good sometimes causing death. As it could be cocci, canker, worms fungal / yeast infection, and the one of the many bacterial infections e coli, salmonella etc. There is only one way that you will find out what is wrong with it, send a throat sawb, and dropping sample off to a Laboratory for testimg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digger. 615 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Speaking form a pigeon man, as all birds get the same disease's, its all good and well guessing whats wrong and blind treating, but with the wrong treatments can cause more harm than good sometimes causing death. As it could be cocci, canker, worms fungal / yeast infection, and the one of the many bacterial infections e coli, salmonella etc. There is only one way that you will find out what is wrong with it, send a throat sawb, and dropping sample off to a Laboratory for testimg. how quick are the results Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 5,963 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Speaking form a pigeon man, as all birds get the same disease's, its all good and well guessing whats wrong and blind treating, but with the wrong treatments can cause more harm than good sometimes causing death. As it could be cocci, canker, worms fungal / yeast infection, and the one of the many bacterial infections e coli, salmonella etc. There is only one way that you will find out what is wrong with it, send a throat sawb, and dropping sample off to a Laboratory for testimg. how quick are the results Probably not quick enough with a little bird like that mate, once their fluffed up they tend to be on their way out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moss 70 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 the most import thing is get the bird in a warm place i.e house or hospital cage,when a bird is ill i feed high fatty seed like niger and hemp and a special sunflower from italian these are small and brown my first response is to treat with baycox and baytril together this way we treat for quite a few ailments and baycox is only a 2 day treatment compared to many other anticocidial products. also check his droppings this can some times give a good clue common in goldfinchs is megabacteria this is a fungus not bacteria best treat with Fungizone (Amphotericin or intrafugal which is for cats but very expensive @ £48 for 50ml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Speaking form a pigeon man, as all birds get the same disease's, its all good and well guessing whats wrong and blind treating, but with the wrong treatments can cause more harm than good sometimes causing death. As it could be cocci, canker, worms fungal / yeast infection, and the one of the many bacterial infections e coli, salmonella etc. There is only one way that you will find out what is wrong with it, send a throat sawb, and dropping sample off to a Laboratory for testimg. how quick are the results The one i use, they phone you the day they get the samples, and also post the results. And is about £12ish Its best getting the birds cheacked out a couple of times through the year just to keep on top of them and not just when they look ill cos many time like gnipper said it will be to late Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moss 70 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 just before i sell my goldfinchs (if i bred them) i send some random samples off for testing they test for cocci,worms,parasites and megabacteria well worth the money as it give the buyer peace of mind,also a major killer in goldfinchs is stress (hopefully in the next few month i will have a article in cage and avairy on siberian goldfinchs) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy p 32 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Just to let you all know the goldie died this Morning thanks for all the advice and help atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,774 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Shame to hear mate,but don't get disheartened as it happens to us all i'm affraid .Just don't give up,i a couple of years ago i didn't shut my bird room safety door and had a goldie cock flit past my hand when i was feeding it and away it went,proper gutted but now have a grand cock bird that will tread most things so onwards and upwards and it'll come good in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy p 32 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 To be fair he wasn't right from the start so when I go to get a new one I'll know what to look for I'm still gonna keep the birds I'll just have to be carefull when choosing one. Expensive mistake tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 5,963 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Try and find one from a reputable source mate and you should be ok. It might be better to get a youngster at the end of this season and try again next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy p 32 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 That's what I'm gonna do get a young bird I'm not botherd about breeding this year I've got a year to get things sorted and learn more so it's probs for the best, are they cheaper at the end of the season or the same price Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,774 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 It happens to us all mate,i bought a siskin hen once and paid to much for her but needed one,she looked clear in the eye,rung all legaly and paid my money.It wasn't till i got her home put her in a bigger cage and found she couldn't fly,the last thing you do at a sale is let them go to see if they can fly .There are some grand bird breeders up your way so maybe go the way Gnipper says and get a young bird that'll be bouncing to go come next year,these things are sent to test us so they say mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy p 32 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 They deffinatly test me ha ha I'm not disheartened by it if anything it's made me keener I'll put it down to experience and try again when do they start goin up for sale ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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