Mr_Logic 5 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I was out with the 223 this evening, which has rapidly earned itself a reprieve! Just got a chrono for my birthday so I had a play with that too - found out that my 40gr load is actually slow at 3500fps. But, using that information, an educated guess on the wind and a precise range value I nailed a rabbit at 250 yards. While this is not a particularly long shot, I was dead chuffed as for the first time I dialled that in, rather than aiming off (well, the elevation anyway, I didn't zero the windage turret yet). Sitting shot over crops off the bipod, and the rabbit turned over and laid there with its legs in the air. Job done, big grin Do have pics but they're on my phone which isn't with me, and I'm feeling lazy.. not that it really matters anyway... Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,900 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Jesus I feel totaly inadequit,I dont understand 1 word of that ,as for 250 yards not being a long shot I have no undrstanding of adjusting the sights to shoot that accurate.Im afraid for the moment I am stuck to the 100 yard limit.Ive tried to read up on it but cannot understand the terminology.Great shooting ML. Quote Link to post
karlp86 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 good job mr logic. i recently started dialing in shots with my .223 lasered a rabbit at 220yrds, 4clicks of elevation on my fixed 10 power eb sniper scope and the 50grain V-max hit it's mark. very satisfying atb karl Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,864 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Jesus I feel totaly inadequit,I dont understand 1 word of that ,as for 250 yards not being a long shot I have no undrstanding of adjusting the sights to shoot that accurate.Im afraid for the moment I am stuck to the 100 yard limit.Ive tried to read up on it but cannot understand the terminology.Great shooting ML. Me too mate! This is the bloke who was asking about shotguns, the easiest fiearm to use successfully! Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Nice one MR L, glad to hear your getting out there..... No better feeling than watching a long range shot connect, Snap. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Thanks guys. For those not understanding, it's just a bit different from aiming off. If you have a scope with good adjustments, which you can rely on (i.e. something reasonably expensive in most cases) and you can reset those adjustments to zero, then you can dial in your shot rather than aiming off. What that means is that instead of thinking, "OK the bullet will drop 2 inches and be wind-affected by 3 inches" for example, you would adjust the scope by that much, so that all you have to do is put the crosshair on your target - the compensation for drop and windage has been done already in the scope's internal adjustments. With the right scope, it makes those longer shots much more precise. But, you must KNOW your range, which is often difficult in the field. I was lucky with this shot, I had a solid range value from my rangefinder, and plenty of time to take the shot. I was still very happy to make it though, especially given that it was a sitting shot, albeit off the long bipod. And as for shotguns, I think they are easier if you come to them first, but I've started with rifles first, and I am frequently told this is bad. Given that I am rubbish with a shotgun, I think this is correct Hopefully see later on, I am off to the gun shop in a bit! Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,900 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 just one point mr l,how do you decide how strong the wind is as to how much it will effect the bullet.is it guess work or a calculated mathemathical sum. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 it's a combination of both. I don't have a wind speed meter so I have to guess the strength of the wind. Thereafter, I put that guessed value into my ballistic calculator and then dial or aim off by the amount it says. on this particular shot it said 5.5". That seemed a lot so I gave it a couple, and the bullet hit a few inches further left than it should have. So the calculator was spot on... Quote Link to post
clivej 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) And what was your guesstimated wind speed for a 5.5" drift @250y Mr L. and what were you zeroed at. I have my 223 zeroed @200m and I see a drop of 9" (10 clicks of up) to get me to 300m. Using 40gr V-Shoks. Edited April 25, 2009 by clivej Quote Link to post
v-max 2 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Get a 22.250 i set mine to group at the top of a 1" target at 90-100m & can hit rabbits out to 250m with 50-55g bullets just aimming at them 22.250 rules. Quote Link to post
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