jonty h 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 thanks sticking to the .222 at the moment ,as i shoot in north staffs and my farms generaly have small fields. Totaly agree with you, ive had a triple for 2 years now and havent seen a 223 do anything that i cant Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Don't talk to me about 204 at the moment. 4 inch groups with the Howa and 40gr ammo at 100 yards. Am trying to negotiate a refund/exchange tomorrow as I want to shoot specifically the 40 grain stuff. Might have to make do with 32 but hopefully not. Flippin 'ek..that doesn't sound encouraging. Have you still got it or has it gone?? the .204 was designed with 32 in mind I understand but a 4" group with 40g is certainly not good!! It has gone to Highland Outdoors. I am promised that this will shoot the 40 grain stuff or it will be replaced by one that does. So long as they test the replacement and send me the card with it, can't say fairer than that. Gunshop was talking about further testing, which of course would be financed by me at £1.50 a shot. Sod that one I figured I could have played around with the lighter bullets and reloads, but as they said to me - I wanted it to shoot 40 grain, and the importer's offering to sort it, so ... Hopefully it won't be away too long, and hopefully Kidlington will do the 1-for-1 on the spot. And there's another thing - why in the name of holy arse can't the firearms law have a clause about faulty firearms?! Quote Link to post
tommym 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hi shooting with a .222 at the moment very smooth accurate round. shooting foxes at mainly 150 yards any advantages with a .223 mac hi mac, what gun and ammo are you using Quote Link to post
mac174 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hi shooting with a .222 at the moment very smooth accurate round. shooting foxes at mainly 150 yards any advantages with a .223 mac hi mac, what gun and ammo are you using Hi Tommym Shooting with a bsa majestic ammo sako arrowhead 50 grs but i have got a couple of boxes of sako gamehead 55grs which i am going to try Quote Link to post
deerstalker32 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Don't talk to me about 204 at the moment. 4 inch groups with the Howa and 40gr ammo at 100 yards. Am trying to negotiate a refund/exchange tomorrow as I want to shoot specifically the 40 grain stuff. Might have to make do with 32 but hopefully not. Flippin 'ek..that doesn't sound encouraging. Have you still got it or has it gone?? the .204 was designed with 32 in mind I understand but a 4" group with 40g is certainly not good!! from what i understand the .204 ruger will shoot 40g better with a longer barrel Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Don't talk to me about 204 at the moment. 4 inch groups with the Howa and 40gr ammo at 100 yards. Am trying to negotiate a refund/exchange tomorrow as I want to shoot specifically the 40 grain stuff. Might have to make do with 32 but hopefully not. Flippin 'ek..that doesn't sound encouraging. Have you still got it or has it gone?? the .204 was designed with 32 in mind I understand but a 4" group with 40g is certainly not good!! It has gone to Highland Outdoors. I am promised that this will shoot the 40 grain stuff or it will be replaced by one that does. So long as they test the replacement and send me the card with it, can't say fairer than that. Gunshop was talking about further testing, which of course would be financed by me at £1.50 a shot. Sod that one I figured I could have played around with the lighter bullets and reloads, but as they said to me - I wanted it to shoot 40 grain, and the importer's offering to sort it, so ... Hopefully it won't be away too long, and hopefully Kidlington will do the 1-for-1 on the spot. And there's another thing - why in the name of holy arse can't the firearms law have a clause about faulty firearms?! There are times you don't seem to have a lot of luck, hope this one sorts itself out...I think we were both hoping for great things from the .204, not exactly the start we had in mind! ATB!! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 thanks sticking to the .222 at the moment ,as i shoot in north staffs and my farms generaly have small fields. Totaly agree with you, ive had a triple for 2 years now and havent seen a 223 do anything that i cant I would tend to agree and I don't think there is generally much arguement here about that. Problem with the .222 is simply that few chamber it now, ammo is getting harder to find, less choice and more expensive. .223 goes from strength to strength with lots of easy to find AND in some case very cheap ammo! If you reload then .222 is relatively future proofed and fine..if you intend to keep a .222 then perhaps an idea to consider reloading if you don't. I would find it difficult to suggest anyone buy a .222 over a.223 today though!! Quote Link to post
nocturne 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The 1 gr shift from 40 to 39 grains may be significant not merely due to the [minimal] weight differential, but as a result of a different bullet profile. My .243 krico [old fixed barrel series] does not perform very well [ but adequately ] with Federal Premium rounds with the 100 gr Sierra Game King Boat tailed soft points, but change to Federal Classics with a 100 grain flat based soft point bullet & the group sizes tighten up very nicely ! - I haven't home loaded as yet, but presumably further tweaking would be possible whilst still retaining the 100 grain bullet necessary [ in a legal sense ] for Scottish reds etc. Therefor a bit of experimention with different cartridge / bullet combinations may yield dividends at a more managable cost [ & proviide valuable & enjoyable range / practice time ] for your .204. Good luck trying, Regards, Nocturne. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The 1 gr shift from 40 to 39 grains may be significant not merely due to the [minimal] weight differential, but as a result of a different bullet profile.My .243 krico [old fixed barrel series] does not perform very well [ but adequately ] with Federal Premium rounds with the 100 gr Sierra Game King Boat tailed soft points, but change to Federal Classics with a 100 grain flat based soft point bullet & the group sizes tighten up very nicely ! - I haven't home loaded as yet, but presumably further tweaking would be possible whilst still retaining the 100 grain bullet necessary [ in a legal sense ] for Scottish reds etc. Therefor a bit of experimention with different cartridge / bullet combinations may yield dividends at a more managable cost [ & proviide valuable & enjoyable range / practice time ] for your .204. Good luck trying, Regards, Nocturne. indeed all true there mate about the bullet profiles etc..., however i wouldn't have the patience to try fiddling around with a heap of different brands of 100g bullets, hence i'm changing to a barrel twist rate of 1 in 9................... very soon........ Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The 1 gr shift from 40 to 39 grains may be significant not merely due to the [minimal] weight differential, but as a result of a different bullet profile.My .243 krico [old fixed barrel series] does not perform very well [ but adequately ] with Federal Premium rounds with the 100 gr Sierra Game King Boat tailed soft points, but change to Federal Classics with a 100 grain flat based soft point bullet & the group sizes tighten up very nicely ! - I haven't home loaded as yet, but presumably further tweaking would be possible whilst still retaining the 100 grain bullet necessary [ in a legal sense ] for Scottish reds etc. Therefor a bit of experimention with different cartridge / bullet combinations may yield dividends at a more managable cost [ & proviide valuable & enjoyable range / practice time ] for your .204. Good luck trying, Regards, Nocturne. indeed all true there mate about the bullet profiles etc..., however i wouldn't have the patience to try fiddling around with a heap of different brands of 100g bullets, hence i'm changing to a barrel twist rate of 1 in 9................... very soon........ The first I've heard of it Snappy............... Quote Link to post
CharlieT 32 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Mr Logic I am sure they will sort you out. I have had my .204 Howa (heavy barrel) for a couple of years now and it shoots Remington 40g factory ammo superbly. It is without doubt the most accurate rifle I have ever owned, even beats my Sako 22.250 which I thought was the bee's knees. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 get a 20tac and be differnt Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hmmm.. .High case pressures and expensive to get started being a wildcat and needing a custom barrel. I'd recommend 204 Ruger, but me and 'im aren't on the same page right now Quote Link to post
provarmint 25 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Lapua make tac 20 brass, Cooper make factory tac 20 rifles. PV. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I didn't know that Cooper was making rifles in that calibre, although they still won't be cheap Quote Link to post
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