FAC advice

[AzMaN 0]

I'm still in the process of sorting out my FAC application for a 22lr (boss is taking his time in filling in the forms ) but i was talking to another FAC holder, and he said, with only 1 peice of land, no length of experience with firearms, and no club, he said the chances of them accepting me were very low.

 

what he sujested was i join a club, get my FAC for target shooting at the club, then 6months later apply for a variation and have the land added.

 

If the first application dose fail (which of course i hope is dosnt) is there a set time between appling again? would it be better to go the club - land route first?

[SportingShooter 0]

First of all how big is the piece of land you have as permission and what sort of layout is the ground? i.e. Flat, hilly, footpaths etc etc.

 

If the land is of a decent size, you should have no problems getting a .22LR for it. As long as it is passed by your FEO as safe for that calibre.

 

The target club route is a waste of your time if you only really want to shoot live stuff and the land is acceptable.

 

There is no length of time stipulated before you can apply again, even if they refuse your first piece of land, go hunting for permission and get a permission slip signed. They will normally hold an application in these circumstances if you ask them to

 

SS

[Deker 3,478]

First of all how big is the piece of land you have as permission and what sort of layout is the ground? i.e. Flat, hilly, footpaths etc etc.

 

If the land is of a decent size, you should have no problems getting a .22LR for it. As long as it is passed by your FEO as safe for that calibre.

 

The target club route is a waste of your time if you only really want to shoot live stuff and the land is acceptable.

 

There is no length of time stipulated before you can apply again, even if they refuse your first piece of land, go hunting for permission and get a permission slip signed. They will normally hold an application in these circumstances if you ask them to

 

SS

 

 

SS has come up with the goods again above....

 

Having one piece of land isn't any sort of a problem at all, as long as you have the correct permission and the land is SUITABLE!!! And if it isn't, joining a gun club and applying later will not help you anyway!!!

 

Think about it, lots of farmers and landowners have FAC and only shoot in their own "gardens"!!!

 

[AzMaN 0]

The land has all been approved already, my boss/landowner has a 22lr also, on a closed FAC although we have footpaths running through the middle of it but ive worked the land for 5 years to i know most there is to know about it, and if they have already passed the land, it must consider it safe to shoot on.

 

I would like to do some target shooting but that i can do on the land anyways at the dedicated zeroing point. (nice steep bank behind it), i would also like to add more farms onto my list at some point and knowing the local farmers im sure i wouldnt have a problem getting their permision, but i would rather learn on ground i know well, if that makes sense.

 

i just think maybe my lack of experience will hinder me slightly, although i have shot a few round off with a 22lr, .243 and a 12 bore, but not alot.

Edited February 15, 2009 by AzMaN

[Deker 3,478]

The land has all been approved already, my boss/landowner has a 22lr also, on a closed FAC although we have footpaths running through the middle of it but ive worked the land for 5 years to i know most there is to know about it, and if they have already passed the land, it must consider it safe to shoot on.

 

I would like to do some target shooting but that i can do on the land anyways at the dedicated zeroing point. (nice steep bank behind it), i would also like to add more farms onto my list at some point and knowing the local farmers im sure i wouldnt have a problem getting their permision, but i would rather learn on ground i know well, if that makes sense.

 

 

That being the case my suggestion would be to talk to your local firearms region and ignore this "Other FAC holder"!!!

[cyclonebri1 8]

I don't think you should have any issues, read up all you can about range, safety, capabilities atc before you talk with the FEO, convincing him/her that you are a safe sensible individual is why they want to see you.

I personally think the shotgun route, ie obtain that 1st, is the best option, not so rigourously controlled and will demonstrate gun sense. I agree that the Club route is a waste of time, your FAC can depend on your continuing club membership, and you don't want that.

 

Be as firm as you need to be at the interview, if you have the shooting rights, a clean record and the right references, they will have to try very hard to turn you away.

[Dan_Smiff 2]

Go for it mate and put in for a SGC aswell (the force will like you for going co-terminous, it saves them a vsit).

 

Must people wont have have had more experience than you when they first apply - knowing the land well will help and you can tell them your boss will show you the ropes on your first few outings.

 

From my experience (and unless you've not mentioned any criminal record or you're only 13 etc etc), you'll get your licence without question.

[AzMaN 0]

Go for it mate and put in for a SGC aswell (the force will like you for going co-terminous, it saves them a vsit).

 

Must people wont have have had more experience than you when they first apply - knowing the land well will help and you can tell them your boss will show you the ropes on your first few outings.

 

From my experience (and unless you've not mentioned any criminal record or you're only 13 etc etc), you'll get your licence without question.

 

I plan on putting in for both, 12 bore for bird .22 for rabbit. My record is as clean as a whissle and im 21 in 2 months, had solid jobs since i was 16 (only changing to progress up the ladder) and been shooting air-rifles for the past 4 years which gives me experience in selecting safe targets (well i think it has).

 

I suppose suck it and see comes to mind, now all i need to do is chase my boss to actualy fill the forms in.

[SportingShooter 0]

Going on the above, you should be fine provided the land is OK

[jamie g 17]

well your on to a winner then if the land is passed. as long as your ok then you will get it.

[Hammergun12 0]

Best of luck and let us know how you get on.

[AzMaN 0]

Best of luck and let us know how you get on.

 

thanks, im hopeing to sort it out in the next few days all being well.

 

just 1 other thing, can a referee be the landower who is signing my permison slip??

[cyclonebri1 8]

Best of luck and let us know how you get on.

 

thanks, im hopeing to sort it out in the next few days all being well.

 

just 1 other thing, can a referee be the landower who is signing my permison slip??

 

 

Yes.

[AzMaN 0]

ok, ive had a change of plan, which in my opinion is for the best. Im going to join a club, i think it will give me better training in the long run than being self taught, and will show to the FLO when i do apply that im sensible, have the safety and shooting background behind me.

 

I know its going to be another 6 months wait, but thats 6 months of gaining advice and picking up good shooting skills (and it keeps me busy on a couple of nights a week).

 

Agree?

[Deker 3,478]

ok, ive had a change of plan, which in my opinion is for the best. Im going to join a club, i think it will give me better training in the long run than being self taught, and will show to the FLO when i do apply that im sensible, have the safety and shooting background behind me.

 

I know its going to be another 6 months wait, but thats 6 months of gaining advice and picking up good shooting skills (and it keeps me busy on a couple of nights a week).

 

Agree?

 

 

This can certainly do no harm, but club target work has little or nothing to do with walking around the countryside shooting vermin!!

 

If you have the land and the reason then you do not need any club target shooting background!!