quicksilver 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 i have bought the above scope to use on a .17hmr and so far i have had problems with visibility through the scope. When i mount the rifle i never seem to be able to get a clear picture through the scope not matter where i position my eye in relation to the scope. It seems that unless i take the shot as soon as i come onto the target the picture blurs and i loose the focus on the target. I shoot an air rifles fitted with a tasco scope and i know it is not my eyes that are the problem. any suggestions or opinions on this scope would be appreciated. keith Quote Link to post
johndownes 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have a Hawk HD 4-12x50 on my .22rf and thats exactly the same really poor optics, I also have a nikko sterling on my .222 and that is excellent. to be honest i dont think much of some of the hawk scopes you pay for what you get. Quote Link to post
quicksilver 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 i guess when you look at the price of the scope and add up the features included in the price, the overall quality has to be reduced. Jack of all trades master of none springs to mind, lesson learned. keith Quote Link to post
bignoel 14 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 placement on mounts might help moveing scope back and forward to suit eye ? only a thought Quote Link to post
millie 1 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 If I where you I'd get rid of the hawke scope and put something decent on it,I've had hawke scopes on my .22 rapids I ended up going back to the old beat up 4x12x40 simmons....brilliant...had no problems after that... Quote Link to post
quicksilver 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 i am going to have a good look around at the shooting show end of the month in nottingham, hopefully they will have some stalks to try the scopes on because holding them off a gun can make anything look ok. Are any of you guys heading to the show in nottingham keith Quote Link to post
bignoel 14 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 to far for me Quote Link to post
Guest noluv6 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 If I where you I'd get rid of the hawke scope and put something decent on it,I've had hawke scopes on my .22 rapids I ended up going back to the old beat up 4x12x40 simmons....brilliant...had no problems after that... Same here, Had a scope crisis lol and wasted 100s to find out my simmons wtc and aetec are simply the best budget scope's you can buy. Was looking for a hft and ft scope and also wasted a bomb. In my honest opinion, simmons wtc the aetec,the leupold vxiii then zeiss/dr/meopta Is the way to go. save and buy what experienced member's recommend as like me they have been there,wasted 100s. nikko stirling ain't a bad scope but still has nothing on the wtc or aetec's at the price range. Quote Link to post
Guest noluv6 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i am going to have a good look around at the shooting show end of the month in nottingham, hopefully they will have some stalks to try the scopes on because holding them off a gun can make anything look ok. Are any of you guys heading to the show in nottingham keith I agree mate,I bought the mtc range because it looked good and experienced the problem's you are having with this hawke and 3 exchange's later I asked and got the mamba which was also the same. It's under the lamp and dark condition's you can tell a good scope,way to tell in the show's is hard but looking threw zeiss you can clearly see the difference but as i say and you say it is no good at the show's.you need local's who have scope's to meet and let you have a look. I highly recommend you listen to experienced shooter's though and you won't get better info then the forum's. there is a optics forum you should check out too. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Chaps..get real..Hawke scopes are made to different levels by several different manufacturers, and some are Excellent for the money and some..well not as good, also remember budget price mass produced items do have problems from time to time! Hawke seems to be branded bad here, that is not true or representative, certainly SOME are not great! Many of the current range of Simmons are terrible, but the WTC was an excellent value for money range, and I know MANY people who have experienced problems with Nikko Sterling and others mentioned here!! Just be careful about generalisations!! simmons wtc the aetec,the leupold vxiii then zeiss/dr/meopta Price range from around £100 to around £650...what is that about, I would expect something a little better at £650 for a Leupold than £50-£100 for a Hawke!! ATB Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Deker, a while back you were singing the praises of a buget scope. Can't remember what make it was, JSR?? I have a couple of Hawkes, one is poor glass, one is ok, but i looked through a scope worth another hundred + and the difference is obvious in low light ...... more ££££'s = better glass - same goes for camera lenses. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Deker, a while back you were singing the praises of a buget scope. Can't remember what make it was, JSR??I have a couple of Hawkes, one is poor glass, one is ok, but i looked through a scope worth another hundred + and the difference is obvious in low light ...... more ££££'s = better glass - same goes for camera lenses. Yep...the JSR I have used are optically very good, actually they are just very good value for money!! Optical differences tend to show up most at night, long distance or high magnification. Build quality differences are usually fairly apparent!! If you are after an air rifle, rimfire or even small centrefire there is a vast range of "sensibly" priced scopes to chose from. It will tend to be true that quality costs, but depending on your requirements the cost may not be justifiable! Do you really need to spend £1300 on a Nightforce for the 12ft lb PCP??? 25 yard bunnies in the day, to 400 yard foxes at night, either end of the scale (ignoring target work)!!!! Somewhere in between you need to think long and hard what you need and how deep your pockets are!! Edited February 15, 2009 by Deker Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 The early model lower range Hawke scopes are shite for eye relief...really... Tell you the Genuine Tasco scope range are far better for the money... Talking about scope differences, I had my HMR out the other day setting the scope on target, the snow was down and the sun was actually shining towards me the position I was in, I had the front sun cowling on the MTC viper and it was a nightmare, just couldn;t see the target, so I dragged the other rifle out with the swarovski on, clear as day, the same is noticeable as mentioned at night, when sometimes only eyes are viewable the higher end optics do give you the edge, you can actually see a clearer and sharper image, that along with magnification needed... Everyones got their own opinions and choices, but I wouldn't spend more than £250 on an air rifle or rimfire scope.... The Hawke Sidewinders are good for the money being 30mm tubes and very similar to the MTC viper range if not slightly better glass...Nikko Stirling, Tasco, Simmons you shouldn't really go wrong with any of these, but if possible always check a scope for eye relief as the ones with very short eye relief are crap.. Quote Link to post
quicksilver 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 The early model lower range Hawke scopes are shite for eye relief...really... Tell you the Genuine Tasco scope range are far better for the money...Talking about scope differences, I had my HMR out the other day setting the scope on target, the snow was down and the sun was actually shining towards me the position I was in, I had the front sun cowling on the MTC viper and it was a nightmare, just couldn;t see the target, so I dragged the other rifle out with the swarovski on, clear as day, the same is noticeable as mentioned at night, when sometimes only eyes are viewable the higher end optics do give you the edge, you can actually see a clearer and sharper image, that along with magnification needed... Everyones got their own opinions and choices, but I wouldn't spend more than £250 on an air rifle or rimfire scope.... The Hawke Sidewinders are good for the money being 30mm tubes and very similar to the MTC viper range if not slightly better glass...Nikko Stirling, Tasco, Simmons you shouldn't really go wrong with any of these, but if possible always check a scope for eye relief as the ones with very short eye relief are crap.. thanks Ian, i have used a tasco 3-9x 56 for about 12yrs and i have never had a problem with it, albeit on an air rifle, which i use all year round ,day nad night. Quote Link to post
bignoel 14 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 must admit i have resorted back to a old 3.9x50 tasco for my 222 it is brill clear as a wisper no movement . Quote Link to post
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