SNAP SHOT 194 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 One of my 22.250 s is a SPS 700 tactical. It has been somewhat doctored insomuch that the fluted stainless barrel is original - has a different Remington stock, jewell trigger and bedded onto aluminium. Not got a mod for it. But with home loads this will group .20 @ 100 and 3/4 at 500. I must say that perhaps I have been lucky with this barrel for a massed produced item. Based on my experience and also an owner ot 2 Blasers and a Tikka, I would say the Rem 700 is fine. Peter thats great grouping for a factory rifle, i'd count yourself very lucky...... nice to get a real shooter out of the box, Yes I am well pleased with it, however I believe that I have also found the perfect round for it and have the perfect (in my opinion!!) cleaning regime. Peter What do you use as a cleaner mate intrested to hear, and it's all down to bullet selection, do you just run the one brand and weight? Quote Link to post
provarmint 25 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 One of my 22.250 s is a SPS 700 tactical. It has been somewhat doctored insomuch that the fluted stainless barrel is original - has a different Remington stock, jewell trigger and bedded onto aluminium. Not got a mod for it. But with home loads this will group .20 @ 100 and 3/4 at 500. I must say that perhaps I have been lucky with this barrel for a massed produced item. Based on my experience and also an owner ot 2 Blasers and a Tikka, I would say the Rem 700 is fine. Peter 3/4 inch @ 500 Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 One of my 22.250 s is a SPS 700 tactical. It has been somewhat doctored insomuch that the fluted stainless barrel is original - has a different Remington stock, jewell trigger and bedded onto aluminium. Not got a mod for it. But with home loads this will group .20 @ 100 and 3/4 at 500. I must say that perhaps I have been lucky with this barrel for a massed produced item. Based on my experience and also an owner ot 2 Blasers and a Tikka, I would say the Rem 700 is fine. Peter 3/4 inch @ 500 Yes- we as keyboard artists can claim anything, however this 60+ old geezer speaks without forked tongue!! Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 One of my 22.250 s is a SPS 700 tactical. It has been somewhat doctored insomuch that the fluted stainless barrel is original - has a different Remington stock, jewell trigger and bedded onto aluminium. Not got a mod for it. But with home loads this will group .20 @ 100 and 3/4 at 500. I must say that perhaps I have been lucky with this barrel for a massed produced item. Based on my experience and also an owner ot 2 Blasers and a Tikka, I would say the Rem 700 is fine. Peter thats great grouping for a factory rifle, i'd count yourself very lucky...... nice to get a real shooter out of the box, Yes I am well pleased with it, however I believe that I have also found the perfect round for it and have the perfect (in my opinion!!) cleaning regime. Peter What do you use as a cleaner mate intrested to hear, and it's all down to bullet selection, do you just run the one brand and weight? Hi SS this is my cleaning regime followed by the ammunition that I make (sorry all long winded!!): Normal Cleaning: 1) Soak a patch with Shooter Choice MC7 - Push it through the bore 2) Repeat above 3) Wet a Phosphor Bronze with MC7 and push right through the bore, so that the brush exits the barrel at the crown, then return it through the bore exiting the breech. Wet it again and repeat the process Pass the brush through the bore ten times wetting occasionally... 4) Dry patch the bore 5) Pass 3 wetted patches with MC7 through the bore 6) Pass dry patches through the bore. If the patches are dirty, repeat the above from (1). Store the rifle by patching Mineral oil through the barrel + rag in breech When I intend to use the rifle, Wet patch with Cayno Croyil and pass through the bore 3 times Dry the bore then put two drops of Croyil on a patch and pass through the bore then pass one dry patch through. This is now ready to use and should give 1st round accuracy!!! When repeatedly shooting, a carbon ring forms within the throat of the barrel and normal cleaning does not remove this. JB Compound is the answer. I reckon on cleaning with JB Compound every 100 shots or so. After cleaning with JB, clean with MC#7 and wet patch the bore until patches are not discolored. DO NOT USE PHOSPHOR BRONZE BRUSH AFTER JB COMPOUND as the abrasive paste and bristle brush could do something rather nasty to your bore? Do not be put off using JB Compound. It is one of my accuracy secrets. ********************************* Reloading apart from the norm:- New Brass - Trim to length 1902 on NEW brass only thereafter keep them around the 1908 mark Deburr with reamer then expand neck turn Full length size Do flash holes Fired Cases - brush out necks then neck size BEFORE tumbling Powder drop even though there is room in the case for 37 gr of N150 ....................................................................... Trim to 1902 on new brass... 1908 is the length of the brass after eight firings, as long as all the brass is the same measurement and within the specs for the chamber, all is ok. I liked leaving my case necks as long as possible because this gives better concentricity and better bullet grip. I would only trim the new brass and after the first firing, after that just monitor case length rather than trim after each firing. Load for the 22.250 Rem 700 and Blaser R93 22.250 22.250 Hornady 55g V Max heads N150 37gr Ogive 1.970 CCI Primer Remmington cases . Trim to 1.908. Redding S Dies using both .250 and .247 bushings Cases to weigh between 152.5 and 154.5 gn. Heads +- .1 gn. Shoulder datum length 1.565 Peter Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 After cleaning with JB, clean with MC#7 and wet patch the bore until patches are not discolored. DO NOT USE PHOSPHOR BRONZE BRUSH AFTER JB COMPOUND as the abrasive paste and bristle brush could do something rather nasty to your bore? more people have told me to stay away from jb compound. i would be weary....sorry Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 After cleaning with JB, clean with MC#7 and wet patch the bore until patches are not discolored. DO NOT USE PHOSPHOR BRONZE BRUSH AFTER JB COMPOUND as the abrasive paste and bristle brush could do something rather nasty to your bore? more people have told me to stay away from jb compound. i would be weary....sorry Quite understand your stance on JB Snap Shot as it is very abrasive, however the secret of its use for removal of the carbon ring is to use it VERY sparingly. I have used it over 10 years and still have the same barrels that work flawlessly. I believe the people that have had things go wrong using JB is because they have used it either too often or incorrectly. Peter Quote Link to post
philip140 6 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yes Mr_Logic, i did use the correct size, i have both SAE and metric keys, they just weren't very good quality i suspect Phil Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 After cleaning with JB, clean with MC#7 and wet patch the bore until patches are not discolored. DO NOT USE PHOSPHOR BRONZE BRUSH AFTER JB COMPOUND as the abrasive paste and bristle brush could do something rather nasty to your bore? more people have told me to stay away from jb compound. i would be weary....sorry Quite understand your stance on JB Snap Shot as it is very abrasive, however the secret of its use for removal of the carbon ring is to use it VERY sparingly. I have used it over 10 years and still have the same barrels that work flawlessly. I believe the people that have had things go wrong using JB is because they have used it either too often or incorrectly. Peter how do you clean only the throat without touching the rifling, or what way do you do it? Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yes Mr_Logic, i did use the correct size, i have both SAE and metric keys, they just weren't very good quality i suspect Phil Bugger, or maybe you got a Friday afternoon Remington? I eat humble pie on the AE brass front though - while it's stamped F C as per every other bit of Federal brass, it's military crimped, so the brass has been near a 5.56 production line at some point in its life ... Quote Link to post
kennel32 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Variations700 SPS 700 SPS DM 700 SPS Stainless I have been considering one of these for a long time now and have the spare slot sitting there. My concerns are this 24 inch barrel, Edgar Bros are threading them now but will not remove any barrel length. I have held some and fired 1 once in this calibre (no Moderator), but I have had a lot of balance problems with my T3 Lite in .223 with a moderator which already has a shorter barrel. I don't want the same grief with a 24inch flagpole of a barrel on the Remington. So, Question for owners of any of the 3 variations of the 700 SPS listed above with a moderator fitted. How do you find the balance, is it front heavy, what mod have you got fitted and have you had to have the barrel shortened in desperation. Whilst we are at it your views on the X Mark Pro trigger and the stock as well. Simple fact is I want to buy a gun and use it, not buy it, cut the barrel down, get another trigger, change the stock, whatever, if I want to spend that much I would buy a Sako to start with! Cheers hi i have a tikka t3 lite .243 with the short barrel and moderator have no problems with it .lately im thinking of changing to a 308 remington 700 sps . am i making a mistake? Quote Link to post
kennel32 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 most of the remmy's 700's are made for the us market and to a good price for them but i have seen a few concerns with some and seen comments on other place's, one said poor opening and closing of the bolt very rough indeed, also there where a few proplems with the extractor claws sheering,i have seen one at a dealer's here and you would think someone chipped a bit of the crown with a chisel i have also seen this on a web page somewhere, this doesn't take away from the fact that they are good shooting and a hell of a lot better balanced than the t3 with mod on, just give whichever one you have your eye on a close going over, plus we all know the selection of aftermarket bit's and piece's for the 700's is second to none..... keep us posted on what you get as i would be intrested to see what you think of the gun you choose..... wud you think that the remington 700 sps would be a better choice to the tikka t3 lite .243 wos thinking of changing Quote Link to post
v-max 2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 My mate has the sps 700 stainless synthetic in 25.06 & found it best with remmy 100g bullets at just under an 1" at 100yrd. He has a jetz S-5 on it & balance was fine but he has now fitted a jewell trigger & i got an H-S stock for him & it went down to 3/4" but he now home loads & it will shoot 1/2" - 1/4" now & is flat out to 300m. The rifle was good from the start & i know he had it grouping 1"1/2 at a range 200-300yrd & even better now he wants to re-barrel but i told him no point till it is shot out as it is very good accurate out to 300m he is delighted with it & has went through rifles like a hoors thong is up & down but likes this 1 but he plans to blue print re-barrel it. Quote Link to post
Spangle 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have a Remmy 700 SPS in .243 It is balanced well even with a P8 on it, I did however change the stock as the remington SPS stocks are flexible, I opted for a Hogue fully bedded one and love it. The trigger was next to be done as teh standard Remington factory trigger comes out at about 5lb, I didn't replace the trigger, just had it adjusted down to 2lb and it spot on for me. I am getting .5MOA with homeloads, even with the standard Remington barrel. Whacking rabbits out to 300yds is easy, accurate and great fun. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 most of the remmy's 700's are made for the us market and to a good price for them but i have seen a few concerns with some and seen comments on other place's, one said poor opening and closing of the bolt very rough indeed, also there where a few proplems with the extractor claws sheering,i have seen one at a dealer's here and you would think someone chipped a bit of the crown with a chisel i have also seen this on a web page somewhere, this doesn't take away from the fact that they are good shooting and a hell of a lot better balanced than the t3 with mod on, just give whichever one you have your eye on a close going over, plus we all know the selection of aftermarket bit's and piece's for the 700's is second to none..... keep us posted on what you get as i would be intrested to see what you think of the gun you choose..... wud you think that the remington 700 sps would be a better choice to the tikka t3 lite .243 wos thinking of changing Yes...My T3 Lite in .223 has taken me 2 years, a fortune in moderatores, scopes and yet further barrell cuts...and 150g of lead in the butt to balance it! My T3 .243 Hunter with the new shorter threaded barrel is great. I would never buy another T3 Lite...the butt end is simply too light for ANY calibre IF you hang a moderator on it. I had 3" cut from my .308 Rem SPS and it is great, would have been fine without the cut, but it did make it that bit better.......and I can still get thumbnail groups at 100 yards with cheap PRVI 150g SP! Quote Link to post
macberran 2 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I have a 700 Police 308. A bit long so I have decided too chop as in the money rich future. Its heavy though I prefer that with this round, Don't have a mod on as yet this may come if I chop it down. The trigger has been tinkered with as its very light. A good gun though does not show the finnish of my Howa or Steyer but then its not always about that. I suppose what I,m saying is she could be a little shorter that aside a good gun. Better than the Tikka I used to have for sure Quote Link to post
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