Wheaton bullterrier

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Edited February 1, 2009 by sounder79

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a mates wheaton x bull, a fukking monster i think he was about 10 months when the pic was taken. i never seen him work but i feel sorry for anything it gets a hold of

Lovely dog. A friend of mine had an english bull. He was a very good dog. It was a rarety.The dog bit like a crocodile and had a very clever brain. He was very tough.We got some really good mixes out of him.He is dead now.

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a mates wheaton x bull, a fukking monster i think he was about 10 months when the pic was taken. i never seen him work but i feel sorry for anything it gets a hold of

 

Nice dog mate what height did he grow to !!!!!!!!

 

i'm not sure mate but i might be over with him during the week and i'll bring a tape

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a mates wheaton x bull, a fukking monster i think he was about 10 months when the pic was taken. i never seen him work but i feel sorry for anything it gets a hold of

 

Nice dog mate what height did he grow to !!!!!!!!

 

i'm not sure mate but i might be over with him during the week and i'll bring a tape

 

Good man!!!

[liamdelaney 2,586]

Rumour has it a well known DEALER in Ireland breeds this x.There is EBT in a lot of wheaten lines.I seen a treacherous 23"wheatenxbull working it was ok and treacherous with other dogs and humans.It looked like a big heavy wheaten.

Why would they do this X?My bets are that the wheaten line was deteriorating.OMO

Stabs was that pic staffdogxwheaten bitch?The animal i seen which through to the wheaten type was vice versa.

Smoothdog over broken=smooth...........broken over smooth=broken????????

Nobody that i know would put a wheaten to an ebt the ebt is not a game dog(Ive tried plenty of them)They are put back to game staffs and are called Bull Wheatons

LD the bullx is staff as you say.BUT the EBT was bred into wheaten lines years ago as i think you ll know.RHOU?Some lines arent tainted though.

Only a Cork man would breed ebt into anything

I have never ever heard or saw anybody in Ireland mix ebt with Wheatens .The ebt was not even an average trial dog what would a good wheaten man have to gain by doing that.Im not from Cork so i will let the Cork boys talk for them selves.But they bred good game dogs and still do

[liamdelaney 2,586]

Rumour has it a well known DEALER in Ireland breeds this x.There is EBT in a lot of wheaten lines.I seen a treacherous 23"wheatenxbull working it was ok and treacherous with other dogs and humans.It looked like a big heavy wheaten.

Why would they do this X?My bets are that the wheaten line was deteriorating.OMO

Stabs was that pic staffdogxwheaten bitch?The animal i seen which through to the wheaten type was vice versa.

Smoothdog over broken=smooth...........broken over smooth=broken????????

Nobody that i know would put a wheaten to an ebt the ebt is not a game dog(Ive tried plenty of them)They are put back to game staffs and are called Bull Wheatons

 

What about the "red hand of ulster" I met a man who owned a son from him. He was supposed to be a good English Bull Terrier and I have been told his influence accounts for alot of very big wheatens from certain lines today.

I personally never heard of the dog u are talking about.What was he used for.

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The famous Red Hand Of Ulster was reputed as one of the greatest gamest EBT to have been around

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of all the dogs i liked to see at the old badger trials " the red hand of ulster " was one, as back then i kept a lot of bull breeds. the dog was put over p.m. wheatens who lives in cork. i see "bolio" is viewing this topic.......no better man to ask about dogs back then !!!!!!!!

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The Handy dog was bred to a wheaten bitch in Lurgan back in the 70's and produced the dog that the late Peter Gorman called Fred Sinead. A dog called Lance and a bitch called Mitzie from this litter stayed in the North and a dog went to Cork.

I saw Handy in the flesh many times and he was well worked as a trial dog.

Peter bred Fred to some of his wheaten bitches and that was, I think, the first injection of EBT blood into the wheaten. I had a bitch bred this way ( Fred X wheaten) that I bred to my old staff dog "Red" to produce the smooth fawn dog "Grip" in the above pic.

Other bitches from the Cork area were bred to another EBT from that area called "The Gallant Hendrix" which also was a good trials dog.

It must be born on mind that these dogs were bred for the specific purpose of gaining certificates. It doesn't mean that they were any better or gamer dogs than others which may have been a bit rowdy at work.

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Hello lads just wondering if anyone has any genuine working wheaton bullterriers, And would like to see pictures and hear how they work all the best

 

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The Handy dog was bred to a wheaten bitch in Lurgan back in the 70's and produced the dog that the late Peter Gorman called Fred Sinead. A dog called Lance and a bitch called Mitzie from this litter stayed in the North and a dog went to Cork.

I saw Handy in the flesh many times and he was well worked as a trial dog.

Peter bred Fred to some of his wheaten bitches and that was, I think, the first injection of EBT blood into the wheaten. I had a bitch bred this way ( Fred X wheaten) that I bred to my old staff dog "Red" to produce the smooth fawn dog "Grip" in the above pic.

Other bitches from the Cork area were bred to another EBT from that area called "The Gallant Hendrix" which also was a good trials dog.

It must be born on mind that these dogs were bred for the specific purpose of gaining certificates. It doesn't mean that they were any better or gamer dogs than others which may have been a bit rowdy at work.

 

Good info so far men Is there any chance some one can show me more pics of these BULL WHEATONS cheers

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thats the 2 pups i was thinkin about... i wonder how they turned out???

[Stabs 2]

The Handy dog was bred to a wheaten bitch in Lurgan back in the 70's and produced the dog that the late Peter Gorman called Fred Sinead.

 

Was relation was Peter Sinead to Fred Sinead D?

 

I thought you made a great post earlier. Noise is no determination of a game dog.

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Although pure , i remember seeing MacIntyres "BrownLow Bobs" trials certs in time gone by , you must remember and possibly seen him in the day bolio ?

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Peter added the Sinead affix to all his wheatens Stabs, so if he called a dog Max, it would be Max Sinead for example. Peter Sinead was, as you know, the most successful trials dog of any breed. In those long discontinued trials there would be a majority of dogs that were lifted for being a bit rowdy, usually at the point of contact when a dog would snarl as he took hold. Of the dogs which were judged to have maintained contact for the whole six minutes without changing grip or giving out (noise), the judges picked out an outstanding performer to award the title of "dog of the day" to. It might be a dog that had taken a blt of punishment or one that had banked his game ( drawn all the way out) in under the time limit. At the end of the season the dog with the most "dog of the day" certs would be "dog of the year". Peter Sinead won Dog of the year three years in a row. So Peter would have bred the dog to a lot of his bitches and most of the line that he continued until his death, (hard to believe it's 20 years) would have Peter Sinead as an ancestor at least once.

 

Mac I never saw Brownlow Bob in the flesh. He was before my time.