thurso jack 3 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 there seems plenty of stock/pups for sale on various sites from various venders and im after a general concensous, personally i own a lurcher of a relatively young age, yet ive been out with a good few local lads, who once seeing her run ask could they put a dog over her and get a pup back, my immeadiate answer is no, as although she is all i require in a dog, personaly, i feel i would not require a pup off her until a good few seasons yet, until i need to replace her, although there is always the question of whether an accident can or could happen and her career may be cut short, and the thought of not having that option is a bit of a mind teaser? so basically im asking when in your opinion is the correct time to breed, considering the above factors? Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 ideally for me it would be between 5 and 7 that way the bitch would off proved herself over a few seasons still be youngish and healthy anough to cope with a litter without causing unnessary complications, the pup you keep back can learn the ropes off her and take over letting her retire. but as you say the bitch is excatlly what you want and dose everything you ask off her. if that is the case and your totaly 100% happy that that is the way you wish to go id start looking for a suitable stud that task alone may take a while if you havent already got one in mind. remember if something unlucky is going to happen it always happens to the best. Quote Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 ideally for me it would be between 5 and 7 that way the bitch would off proved herself over a few seasons still be youngish and healthy anough to cope with a litter without causing unnessary complications, the pup you keep back can learn the ropes off her and take over letting her retire. but as you say the bitch is excatlly what you want and dose everything you ask off her. if that is the case and your totaly 100% happy that that is the way you wish to go id start looking for a suitable stud that task alone may take a while if you havent already got one in mind. remember if something unlucky is going to happen it always happens to the best. a very well rounded reply there i have my own thoughts, and as for a stud ive never even thought about it, suffice to say it wont be happening for a good few years yet, there is enough blood about similar to my bitch that i wouldnt be stuck but come a few years time, who knows please opinions welcome, its only a discussion Quote Link to post
minty2008 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 im in the same boat [bANNED TEXT] its hard like they say 5 to 7 thats a canny inins done [bANNED TEXT] she has to prove yes we would like them to run with out no injuries but were not all that lucky mate lets breed them and like the lads say keep a pup to keep the jeans going but the ? is [bANNED TEXT] do i put to her shes a collie gray wippet i wont somethink bigger to pull down if you no [bANNED TEXT] i mean lol wots yours mate? Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 ideally for me it would be between 5 and 7 that way the bitch would off proved herself over a few seasons still be youngish and healthy anough to cope with a litter without causing unnessary complications, the pup you keep back can learn the ropes off her and take over letting her retire. but as you say the bitch is excatlly what you want and dose everything you ask off her. if that is the case and your totaly 100% happy that that is the way you wish to go id start looking for a suitable stud that task alone may take a while if you havent already got one in mind. remember if something unlucky is going to happen it always happens to the best. i feel i need to add that i personally have never bred a litter off lurchers out off a bitch ive owned. ive had bitches that have deserved kennel space without question, but for one reason or another was not right for a litter. there is always good dogs but rarly great dogs, ive never owned a great dog. Quote Link to post
fatmoocher 30 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 always liked to breed a good terrier bitch on the 3 season .i thinks it calms the bitches down and they are still suple enough to pass them.but with lurchers i wait a little longer.i think they mature later.not to say i have not bred with younger lurchers but you leen by your mistakes Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 always liked to breed a good terrier bitch on the 3 season .i thinks it calms the bitches down and they are still suple enough to pass them.but with lurchers i wait a little longer.i think they mature later.not to say i have not bred with younger lurchers but you leen by your mistakes but then what do you do with the pups out off a untruley tested bitch which was only bred because she was exciteable, under the deluded thought that a litter would calm her down and make her a better worker. im not having a pop and i appologise if you think i am. Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 if it's a good dog it's a good dog no matter the age and what iv found is the best dogs do seem to die young Quote Link to post
Guest jbswildlife Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I would breed them between 3 and 4. Quote Link to post
stevemac 449 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) The only valid reason to breed a bitch is when you need one for yourself if every one had that atitude we would not have half the trouble with shelters that we do this is the only reason I have ever bred a litter. age 3 to 5 years the bitch is still young and supple less compilcations at birth. and still of working age and old enough to have provin its self in the feild. stevemac Edited December 14, 2008 by stevemac Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 there seems plenty of stock/pups for sale on various sites from various venders and im after a general concensous, personally i own a lurcher of a relatively young age, yet ive been out with a good few local lads, who once seeing her run ask could they put a dog over her and get a pup back, my immeadiate answer is no, as although she is all i require in a dog, personaly, i feel i would not require a pup off her until a good few seasons yet, until i need to replace her, although there is always the question of whether an accident can or could happen and her career may be cut short, and the thought of not having that option is a bit of a mind teaser? so basically im asking when in your opinion is the correct time to breed, considering the above factors? I suppose it depends on your reasons for breeding in the first place. If you have enough work for more than one dog, then if your happy with how your own dog performs then why not. The problem with only having one dog is any injury and your very often laid up waiting on the dog recovering. But failing that if your happy with what you've got I would wait till she had a least 4 seasons under her belt before considering breeding. Personally I like to have two dog's on the go for the reasons I mentioned. Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I would breed with what I see fit, and when I see fit..and no one on this gods earth will dictate to me otherwise Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I would breed with what I see fit, and when I see fit..and no one on this gods earth will dictate to me otherwise Well said Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 between four and five is perfect for a first litter , the only reason i breed is to keep more work ing stock , not for money or i would get saluks and other pure hunting breeds , i f you dont breed you dont have replacements , to keep you hunting , and i like testing mines before i breed so at least 2or 3 years on the feild tells you what they have in there tank and as for a male 4 years is a good age to use him at stud, as hees matured and done the nessasary work Quote Link to post
littletimmy 71 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Just to add more debate.. at what age has a dog proven its worth as to be used at stud? A lad of here so kindly offered me to use his 14 month old dog as stud over my 2 year old bitch which hes only seen run once on hars which she couldnt catch on the lamp(admittedly shes the worst dog ive seen run hares on the lamp ) for a low fee of 150 quid because he knows me The dog is out of the best stuff in the country because he paid 350 quid for it out of the countryman's weekly and would let me buy it for 250 because again he knows me and it is truly (in his eyes) a great game dog .. at 14 months old discuss Quote Link to post
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