Barnardos insult to Gun owners

[tom1cameron 1]

See BASC homepage for info, also see advert on Barnardos website.

I would usually applaud their work but this is not fair as it suggests that the type of persons that have "legal" access to hunting firearms would go out and kill children.

I have faxed their Cheif Exec and the Scottish HQ to support John Swifts letters.

If you are similarly annoyed then please write your own letters and fax them as well

 

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/contact_us.htm

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/chi..._online_ads.htm

 

http://www.basc.org.uk/content/new_call_on_barnardos_to_

 

With the Best intentions

 

Tom

[SportingShooter 0]

I've sent them an Email, may well send them a fax.

 

Here's what I sent them anyway,

 

"Madam,

 

I wish to express my strong opposition to the hosting of this video on your website. I, as a Shooting Man and Countryman, find it extremely offensive and distasteful. There is both, no evidence and no need to draw the comparison between legal ownership of firearms and the shooting of Children. As has been also said by the Shooting organisations that affect us, there is a grave anger within the Shooting community at this depiction. I believe that it has brought a great deal of hurt to those of us who genuinely enjoy what we do, to be depicted as Child murderers.

I hope that your organisation will see the error of its ways.

 

Yours."

 

 

SS

[hily 380]

sent in complaint against the use of donations to make a film that is more about the demonising of people that hunt than about peoples attitude towards kids.

[SNAP SHOT 194]

The message sent was:

To see this ad by an organisation such as barnardo's is sickening to say the least, I am a holder of both sgc, and fac, and also contribute to barnardo's fundraising every year, The image in which you potray legal firearm's owners in this video is shocking to say the least, I am both a sportsman and countryman and proud to be raised in such a way that brings me in touch with nature, We simply don't go around shooting everything we see.. Great care and skill has been developed to achieve the best standards possible with everything we strieve to do, And this ad is putting the hunting community in an untenable situation, Of withdrawing support from the charities that need it most.

 

this is the message i sent....

 

 

a poor ad campain, to say the least,

[farlap 19]

The message sent was:

To see this ad by an organisation such as barnardo's is sickening to say the least, I am a holder of both sgc, and fac, and also contribute to barnardo's fundraising every year, The image in which you potray legal firearm's owners in this video is shocking to say the least, I am both a sportsman and countryman and proud to be raised in such a way that brings me in touch with nature, We simply don't go around shooting everything we see.. Great care and skill has been developed to achieve the best standards possible with everything we strieve to do, And this ad is putting the hunting community in an untenable situation, Of withdrawing support from the charities that need it most.

 

this is the message i sent....

 

 

a poor ad campain, to say the least,

its disgraceful and I have emailed them immediately.

[SportingShooter 0]

I have received this reply from Barnardos today.

 

"Dear Mr ***

Thank you for your feedback on our campaign film. We are sorry you were offended by its content.

The concept of shooting is a metaphor for how the public thinks about children and is not intended to single out those who take part in shooting sports as those wanting to shoot children. The analogy is born out of a direct quote taken from a newspaper website written by a member of the public.

Our intention is not to offend people, but to highlight society’s intolerance of children and young people. We believe the most shocking part of the film is the comments made by the public.

We have also made a public comment to the British Association of Shooting and Conservation (BASC) http://www.basc.org.uk/content/basc_wins_apology

We hope that your dislike of the film does not detract from the issue being raised, and that you can continue to support us in the future.

 

Yours sincerely

 

**** ******

Head of Brand and New Media"

 

Which to me is nothing more than a Whitewash with no action being taken whatsoever, the film is still on the webpages. This is my Reply.

 

"M** ******,

 

I thank you for your reply, however I do not see any action that has actually been taken. I have read, and did read, the apology on the BASC website before I received this reply and personally believe that is a whitewash that also contains no action from your organisation.

 

I can understand your aims, and have been a supporter of Barnardos indirectly for a very long time. Which is why, when I think of the campaign which you have launched, that my donations have been used to create something that I find deeply offensive and which is reprehensible to Countryside living within the UK. We are already fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of our past-time, which is why so many people have taken offense at this film.

 

We are not in a strong position as a community and this type of publicity does us no favours. Any material such as this can be twisted by the Anti shooting organisations with ease. I have no doubt that it has and will appear in future attempts to condemn Shooting sports.

 

Personally, I would like to see the video removed from your Webpages. I realise that you are trying to prove a point, and make issue of a comment made by a member of the public and I in no way condemn the use of such language, nor the treatment or demonising of children. But by choosing this metaphor to represent that comment, you are losing the support of a great many people that would normally freely give you funds, Country Fates, Fairs, etc etc.

 

Mr *** ***."

 

SS

[SNAP SHOT 194]

i got it too a few words are different, relating to me personaly...and the statment i made to them,

nice to see them reply and give insight into the thinking of the ad.................

Still i hope they may think twice next time.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

Ive not had a reply but then again

[trappa 518]

Ive given money every month through my wages to barnardos, i will stop this on monday and email them.

Ive just sent them..

I have given a standing donation from my wages every month for at least 15 years now to barnardos, but, after watching the "hunting" video of yours i will be cancelling my donations as of monday. As a legal firearms owner and user, i was upset to see you portray law abiding gun owners as myself as crazy madmen in the new campaign. Shooters are, by and large, the most law abiding of all sportsmen- we need to avoid trouble of any kind in order to keep our gun licences so to show them in this light is morally and ethically wrong. I will sadly be looking for another worthwhile charity to give my monthly donation to. Yours, alan.

Edited November 29, 2008 by trappa

[cbw 4]

One of my direct relatives was a barnardos 'child' I ask you to think again about stopping your worthwhile donation.

 

Whilst I agree that this ad campaign is absolute rubbish and made me quite mad please look at the bigger picture.

 

Your donation does and will make a difference to children who had nothing to do with this ad.

 

The ad is probably the work of a couple of city dwelling, pen pushing Knobs who have never seen a sporting rifle.

 

There are so many crap charities out there and this is not one of them, by all means send them emails of disgust but dont stop the donations to a worthy cause.

 

CBW

[dicehorn 38]

One of my direct relatives was a barnardos 'child' I ask you to think again about stopping your worthwhile donation.

 

Whilst I agree that this ad campaign is absolute rubbish and made me quite mad please look at the bigger picture.

 

Your donation does and will make a difference to children who had nothing to do with this ad.

 

The ad is probably the work of a couple of city dwelling, pen pushing Knobs who have never seen a sporting rifle.

 

There are so many crap charities out there and this is not one of them, by all means send them emails of disgust but dont stop the donations to a worthy cause.

 

CBW

 

 

I had a monthly standing order to Barnardos which had been going about 4 years and having seen the video, I too through my internet banking cancelled this standing order and advised Barnardos of my reason.

 

Whilst I accept what you have written CBW, I feel that this organization has stepped outside of its remit and entered the world of totally misinformed politics. People like myself and trappa are in a stronger position than most by using our veto which hopefully will have more effect than sending a complaining email to get a standard response back from them.

 

Peter

[tom1cameron 1]

One of my direct relatives was a barnardos 'child' I ask you to think again about stopping your worthwhile donation.

 

Whilst I agree that this ad campaign is absolute rubbish and made me quite mad please look at the bigger picture.

 

Your donation does and will make a difference to children who had nothing to do with this ad.

 

The ad is probably the work of a couple of city dwelling, pen pushing Knobs who have never seen a sporting rifle.

 

There are so many crap charities out there and this is not one of them, by all means send them emails of disgust but dont stop the donations to a worthy cause.

 

CBW

 

 

While Barnardos do good work, this advert is not related to that work whatsoever. They took a few comments on a newpaper forum about how "some kids" who were probably causing someone immense anxiety and uncomfort, should be treated...and they turned it into a propaganda on how easily accessed hunting weapons can be picked up and used to KILL children running in a street!!!!!!!

 

It is NOT on and I urge anyone to make sure that Barnardos at least temporarily feel it in their purse, which includes not supporting the many Clay Pigeon shoots that are organised for them each and every year. It wont stop their work with Children but it might result in them sacking a few pillocks.

 

While being a charity, the people who sat in their office and designed this, and the ones who sanctioned it to be aired, will only remove it fromm their website and think twice about being so stupid again, if it hits their wallets.

 

I/We/You cannot afford to be complacent. If most of Australia can loose the right to hunt, so could we, and for all sorts of reasons.

Edited November 30, 2008 by tom1cameron

[tom1cameron 1]

I just got a similar response to the others. As the video is still on their website I replied with....

 

This is not good enough I am afraid.

 

Your point is that because a SINGLE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC on an internet forum made some distasteful remarks about how children should be treated, which given the strength of the comments were probably generated by some most unfortunate behaviour by the said children, that you

have the right to portray the shooting community in the UK as the type of people who might use their priviledges to go out in the street and shoot at

children.

 

And the you ask me to concur with you that it was the comments of a SINGLE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC that was the most shocking thing about the video.

And not the portraying of men with guns running after kids in the street. Have you lost control of your judgement!!!!!!

 

It was well out of order and it is high time that all of you at Barnardos realise that there is a line that you should not cross.

 

Your apology is meaningless without action: your lack of action displays no remorse whatsoever. I want your video removed from your website and Barnardos to post your apology to BASC, its members and the shooting community on the homepage of your website.

 

That is a very little thing to ask. With everyday that you fail to take this action more and more members of the shooting community and their families are

finding that your actions have, as you say "distracted us from the issues" being raised.

 

With increasing frustration

[Fidgety 8]

Good letter Tom.

[tom1cameron 1]

!!!!!!IMPORTANT!!!!!

 

BASC has found a way to make a complaint against Barnardos that will make them listen. Since this event Barnardos director has snubbed John Swifts personal calls and will not engage with them, claiming that they had BASC approval because they phoned them up the day before they released the film and told BASC that they were releasing it!!!

 

Anyway, what BASC specifically need is "genuine" evidence that the advert has led to cancelled subscriptions.

They need to see evidence of 50 changes of heart about donating as a consequence of the film.

 

I know a few of you did this and I will contact you directly, but if you know of anyone else who has done similar then please pass this info on.

 

Follow the instructions at

 

http://www.basc.org.uk/content/barnados_hunting_film