Guest JohnGalway Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Here's the deal. Sell two scopes MTC Viper 4-16x50 plus my Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x50 to free up funds. Buy a S&B 8x56. Part exchange my Sako Quads .22lr barrel for a HMR barrel. Add Quad, HMR barrel and S&B together. Motive, to own a S&B scope. Uses, 95% safely landed corvid bashing. Ammo expenditure given the numbers of targets won't break any bank, most importantly mine. Thoughts? Good idea? Bad idea? Quote Link to post
riggers 2 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 think its a good idea mate Quote Link to post
pip 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Here's the deal. Sell two scopes MTC Viper 4-16x50 plus my Leupold VX-III 4.5-15x50 to free up funds. Buy a S&B 8x56. Part exchange my Sako Quads .22lr barrel for a HMR barrel. Add Quad, HMR barrel and S&B together. Motive, to own a S&B scope. Uses, 95% safely landed corvid bashing. Ammo expenditure given the numbers of targets won't break any bank, most importantly mine. Thoughts? as mentioned in previous thread i have 2 s&b 8*56 and i can't fault them. the one on my .22 has twice been dropped off the back of a moving vehicle(unloaded) and hasn't even shifted zero let alone broken. when i did have a problem with a 15 year old one s&b fixed it serviced it for free never even charged postage. swarovski probably better still but dearer Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yes, it's the Hungarian model. I have been thinking about S&B for a fair old while, kept track of many topics on various forums. I've come to the conclusion that there isn't enough of a difference (for me) to justify the price difference between the Hungarian assembled model and the German assembled model. In reality, the only hassle for me will be changing from a .22lr cert to a HMR cert. Besides ricochets I really can't fault my .22lr, but with it's trajectory I feel the S&B would be more suited to a flat shooting calibre. God knows I've killed my fair share of vermin with it to date. I don't have the option of buying a third rifle to stick the S&B on. Probably the only two other calibres I would go for would be .22-250 or .243. I can't really see me justifying swapping .223 to .22-250. If I were to move up to .243 over here, as far as I know, I'd need to go looking for deer permission, and I can't be bothered doing that at this point in time. So that's why I'm thinking HMR. It will also partially resolve me currently owning two rifles and four scopes. Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) I think your minds already made up I've never got on with leupods and haven't tried MTC's. The scope is perfectly transferrable to a full-bore deer rifle when you run out of crows I loved my hmr when i had one and with good glass like that on top it'll be a winner... you get a very satisfying feeling vapourising and blowing chunks of corvids. Having said that the make a mess out of rabbits if you save them for the table and i'd feel almost naked without a .22lr in the rack as i've brought up with them.... but forget about that - DO IT! You know you want to. Edited November 6, 2008 by Local Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I think your minds already made up I've never got on with leupods and haven't tried MTC's. The scope is perfectly transferrable to a full-bore deer rifle when you run out of crows I loved my hmr when i had one and with good glass like that on top it'll be a winner... you get a very satisfying feeling vapourising and blowing chunks of corvids. Having said that the make a mess out of rabbits if you save them for the table and i'd feel almost naked without a .22lr in the rack as i've brought up with them.... but forget about that - DO IT! You know you want to. MTC is a good scope for .22lr, plenty of aim points in the SCB reticle The deer rifle thought did indeed cross my mind, something for well well intot he future I think though. The rabbit population is in a sorry state around here, I'm at a loss as to explain why. I've my theories but can't verify them. And you're right about corvids witht he HMR, busted crows and maggies manys the time with HMR's DOn't they make a pretty mess Quote Link to post
Deker 3,491 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 MTC Viper 4-16x50 plus my Leupold VX-III 4.5-15x50 I'm in the market for a new scope (or 2) ...talk to me John..PM probably best.. Cheers Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 MTC Viper 4-16x50 plus my Leupold VX-III 4.5-15x50 I'm in the market for a new scope (or 2) ...talk to me John..PM probably best.. Cheers PM sent Correction on the Leupold it's 4.5-14x50, I'm always saying it's x15 Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Rather good points made by Dixy here and others elsewhere specifically pointing out both scopes I have now will do on the HMR and save me a packet, gah, common sense, plus they have variable mag. Know now why I have more scopes than rifles lol. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 John you CAN get the .243 for vermin only, As this is the way i went to start with, if you got plenty of land, just say the foxes are causing trouble at the farm at lambing and you need a rifle that is capable of taking them at extended range with ease...........plus that and you may be geting a deer licence inthe future............ Quote Link to post
sauer 2 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 dont get me wrong the S&B is a good scope but the cross hairs on it were far too thick for my liking....i found at night(lamping) they would obscure a lot of the target at not too long ranges!!! sauer Quote Link to post
weejohn 3 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 i would say definately get the HMR , if i never had any rabbits to shoot i would sell the .22 and would only use the HMR. as for the S&B scope i personally would stick with the leupold having the extra magnification if you are planning on some long range shooting. Quote Link to post
macberran 2 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Bopped a rabbi t up the ass @ 210yds with a 222 and the S+B, go for it can't fault, better glass than my Swarz.................John...your avatar.wow Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Yes, it's the Hungarian model. I have been thinking about S&B for a fair old while, kept track of many topics on various forums. I've come to the conclusion that there isn't enough of a difference (for me) to justify the price difference between the Hungarian assembled model and the German assembled model. There is no difference at all - Christian at S & B sent me this: Our recommendation for your purposes would be the 8x56 German or Hungarian made; the only difference between these 2 models is the engraving, Made in Germany / Made in Hungary-all parts/optics etc are the same. So I'd get the Hungarian. I did, you seriously, utterly won't regret it! Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm still thinking it over. Two minds now because the magnification is very handy, I do use it sometimes. I'm thinking crow at 150 yards with an S&B reticle and wondering Anyhow, no rush on me, I'll get the HMR barrel sorted first (hopefully) then worry about the rest. Quote Link to post
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