dev 226 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 we have a bitch that had pups last week, she has been very unwell since she had them and the vet thinks she could have parvo. the pups are 1 week old and we have taken them off the mother and put them onto another bitch that has just finished rearing a litter herself. the 2nd bitch has taken the pups in and will allow them to suckle but she is not as interested in them as she was in her own pups and they are not thriving like the first litter did.i was wondering if any of you experianced breeders out there could tell me if there is a milk formula for pups that we could give to them as to supplement their feeding? Quote Link to post
Guest blackntan Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 we have a bitch that had pups last week, she has been very unwell since she had them and the vet thinks she could have parvo. the pups are 1 week old and we have taken them off the mother and put them onto another bitch that has just finished rearing a litter herself. the 2nd bitch has taken the pups in and will allow them to suckle but she is not as interested in them as she was in her own pups and they are not thriving like the first litter did.i was wondering if any of you experianced breeders out there could tell me if there is a milk formula for pups that we could give to them as to supplement their feeding?bad luck mate, go to a agiculture suppler and get calf/lamb milk suppliment it will have doses etc on it , not cheap but will get them thru to lapping, i would be more worried over the bitch re parvo and passing it on , good luck Quote Link to post
hang & bang 114 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 lactal (dear but very good) get in pet shops and vets , i used on a litter of lurchers before or lamb lack get in farming centers (cheap comes in 15kg bag four you gussed it lambs but good on pups also) (sorry four the bad spellings i do my best ha) Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 (edited) cheers mate, its just the vet never mentioned it to us , i'll ask him tonight then does he sell it, thanks Edited September 16, 2008 by dev Quote Link to post
Guest rio Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 when i had a pup to hand rear i got told to us lactol and it worked well for the few days i had the pup Quote Link to post
hang & bang 114 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 very comman not hard stuff to get at all every pet shop has it i give it to the bitch while on pups , , , if your stuck i can get it here in dublin and meet u on the m1 Quote Link to post
Clover 0 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 we have a bitch that had pups last week, she has been very unwell since she had them and the vet thinks she could have parvo. the pups are 1 week old and we have taken them off the mother and put them onto another bitch that has just finished rearing a litter herself. the 2nd bitch has taken the pups in and will allow them to suckle but she is not as interested in them as she was in her own pups and they are not thriving like the first litter did.i was wondering if any of you experianced breeders out there could tell me if there is a milk formula for pups that we could give to them as to supplement their feeding? Hi Dev I'm so sorry about your bitch - I hope she recovers. I've assisted a bitch that had 15 pups and also helped with other large litters and I'd really recommend staying with bitch's replacement milk up until the pups are at least 3 weeks, then maybe slowly switch to lamb's milk. Welpi and Lactol are fairly easy to get hold of, your vet or local pet store will probably hold small packs of these. This is a very expensive way to buy it though, but at least it'll start you off. If you Google, you'll find lots of suppliers of puppy milk that's mail order to you. I've used Royal Canin puppy milk and it was good, easy to mix too, which helps! Not sure if I'm allowed to put up a site that sells it, so I'll pm you. Good luck Quote Link to post
Clover 0 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 (edited) Hi Dev Can't pm you - your inbox is full! Edited September 16, 2008 by Clover Quote Link to post
dog fox 16 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 lactol is the one ,easy to get hold of too,wouldnt bother giving them anything else ,but i would get some asap cos it dosnt take them long to deteriate ,how longs the bitch been sick dev , i wouldnt be happy with the vet thinks , because it could be a number of things , if she ,s been ill over a week ,i dont think it would be parvo as my misses had a dog years ago that died of parvo ,i,d say 4 days from the dog showing symtoms and it was dead very qiuck killer parvo . Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 cheers mate, its just the vet never mentioned it to us , i'll ask him tonight then does he sell it, thanks vets do sell it mate its not too pricey and good stuff ive reared some strong dogs on it just abit harder rearing them by hand .the other bitch will work but will be lacking in goodness now. i think it was tango on the forum too he just reared 12 on it best off luck Quote Link to post
moseley 16 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 hand reared a few pups mate lactol and farleys rusk does the job but dont rush them on the teet or it could go in the lungs and cause them to be ill Quote Link to post
TRUE SAXON 108 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 EBAY mate just type puppy milk few different kinds not dear at all also have feeding bottle for pups just in case you need one good luck Quote Link to post
jayjay 264 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 we have a bitch that had pups last week, she has been very unwell since she had them and the vet thinks she could have parvo. the pups are 1 week old and we have taken them off the mother and put them onto another bitch that has just finished rearing a litter herself. the 2nd bitch has taken the pups in and will allow them to suckle but she is not as interested in them as she was in her own pups and they are not thriving like the first litter did.i was wondering if any of you experianced breeders out there could tell me if there is a milk formula for pups that we could give to them as to supplement their feeding? hi mate sorry to hear the bad news, i have pups they are four weeks old now my bitch had to have a cesaerian and when they were born i had to hand feed them for two days every two hours the vet give me a powdered milk formula called welpi its for new born pups and supposed to be the next best thing to the mothers milk the only thing is its quite expensive for the amount you get so i would go along with other peoples decisions on the lactol this i consider to be just as good and cheaper ,i bought a 1kg tin the other day for £9.99 this is your best bet and can be bought from big pet stores or agricultaral food supplies, hope everything goes well for you mate. Quote Link to post
dfee 1 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 lactol is good stuff i give it to young dogs as well as there food.over here you can get it from pet smart i dnt no if they have pet smart over there.good luck hope they ok. Quote Link to post
Guest ROOSTER Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 very young puppies exposed to parvo can last for weeks and then suddenly die as parvo can effect their hearts older puppies as in 6 weeks upwards will get it in the usual way where they go off food get depressed start vomiting and pass foul smelling blood stained diaphoria (sp), its probably best you leave them with the second bitch and try to help with some lactol feeds to ease the burden after all she will be fed up and may not have a great supply of milk, try taking her away from the pups and just put her back to feed and clean them it may make her maternal side come through, goodluck Quote Link to post
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