Starting a dog single handed

[Northsider 9]

Get out there nog,i did for over 20yrs on my own,you'll learn more slowly without someone to show you the way but you'll learn a lot quicker than being sat in the house.

It took me prob 10yrs before i started getting any decent permission...the terrier game is a long road to get to where you want to be and if your not dedicated you will lose interest before you get there...but if you stick at it one day you'll get a bit of luck.

How old are you nog? If your a young lad you will find it harder to get permission but as you get older it gets easier(not much tho)

 

Thank you for the reply mate.

 

Im 22 at the moment and im very determing to get my bitch going. I know she will do it, shes from proven working parents and i owe it to her to get her going! Just ruddy frustrating!!!!

stick at mate it will happen

[dog fox 16]

i agree with spiff on that one mate ,if your just starting out and your digging by yourself try and get some easy digs for your dog ,i myself have brought dogs on from pups with no older dogs to teach them the ropes,and can be frustrating sometimes but you must believe in your dog ,if he says there,s no one home you have to take his word for it ,no matter how much you think theres someone in ....no point egging your dog on to something thats not there ,,,(not saying you do but weve all probely dont in the early days ) once you know your dog and can trust him things should start to speed up a bit ....if your going out by yourself then always have your shovel and collar and box ,because sooner than later your dog is going to find and its no good sitting on bank for hours not being able to help him out and will end in your dog coming away ,which is a step in the wrong direction for you and your dog ,if you put him to ground then you must dig him out ,the more times you do this the better the dog will become at doing his job properly , dont expect to much of him at first when he does find something home ,he will get better at working his fox each time he meets him ,but some are easier than others ,which is same as the digs themselves some easy and some very hard ,no matter how deep . but i would try and get someone to go out with you ,so they can lend a hand with the digging and taking care of dog and mr fox when you break through or you be stood there with fox in 1 hand and dog in other ,or rolling down bank with them both (done that one myself ) always respect the land and landowners and always backfill your holes and leave things as you found them ,like you said at begining about getting permision its getting harder all the time as a lot of the old time farmers are popping there cloggs and them farms get built on or renovated ,ive lost a lot of land this way ,but keep at it and you should keep getting bits here ...... hope this helps and is jmo on your post

[Guest Leveller]

Which hunts go on the land?

[OldNog 432]

cheers dog fox :thumbs-up:

 

Leveller, it is the South Dorset and Portman Hunt which seem to use every square inch of ground down here

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited August 28, 2019 by grant_c

[shinyspade 2]

cheers Spiff

 

im gunna order my locator over the weekend hopefully, got to check my accounts tomorrow haha. Got plenty of books that iv read time and time again and none of them make it out to be easy!

 

thats becouse its not an easy game and if with your inexperience you make a wrong decision your dog may pay dearly much better to get experienced help advice. sort out all the gear you may need. join the fell and moorland look around for lurcher terrier clubs. you have plenty of time for your dog to mature. use it to get clued up. . good luck

[mossman330 0]

hey oldnog im kinda i the same boat

i have no hands on experience and would hate for something to happen to my dog because of my lack of experience.

but i guess you have to start some where. i was told locator collar.

[Guest Chip]

weve all been there Now im just off for a mooch on my 300 acres of permission

mind you dont get lost.

[MINNIE 4]

another inroad to getting some permission is to do some beating on a pheasant shoot i know some lads that have done this and had plenty to go at. worth a try.

[the_stig 6,614]

cheers dog fox :thumbs-up:

 

Leveller, it is the South Dorset and Portman Hunt which seem to use every square inch of ground down here

try following your hunt .. get to know the terrierman offer your help - might be worth a try not a good idea to offer fox control when your trying for new permission i always offer to do rats first - get your foot in the door .. likes been said try and get yourself a partner .. i always leave a buissness card and a small leaflet whr possible - you can soon knock em up on your computer .. i`ve got leaflets in my local corn merchants and tack shop .. good luck - another idea been mentioned ring your fmwtc rep .. Edited September 13, 2008 by the_stig

[dogrun 2]

I think everyone has pretty much summed it up for you fella, try for the ratting first, get around the bale stacks, once the farmer starts to get to know you and trust you, he tells his mate in the pub and so forth. you never know whats lurking in the bale stacks do you have a working terrier club near you ? join it, you may get asked out or someone may take you under there wing

[Guest busterdog]

i agree with spiff on that one mate ,if your just starting out and your digging by yourself try and get some easy digs for your dog ,i myself have brought dogs on from pups with no older dogs to teach them the ropes,and can be frustrating sometimes but you must believe in your dog ,if he says there,s no one home you have to take his word for it ,no matter how much you think theres someone in ....no point egging your dog on to something thats not there ,,,(not saying you do but weve all probely dont in the early days ) once you know your dog and can trust him things should start to speed up a bit ....if your going out by yourself then always have your shovel and collar and box ,because sooner than later your dog is going to find and its no good sitting on bank for hours not being able to help him out and will end in your dog coming away ,which is a step in the wrong direction for you and your dog ,if you put him to ground then you must dig him out ,the more times you do this the better the dog will become at doing his job properly , dont expect to much of him at first when he does find something home ,he will get better at working his fox each time he meets him ,but some are easier than others ,which is same as the digs themselves some easy and some very hard ,no matter how deep . but i would try and get someone to go out with you ,so they can lend a hand with the digging and taking care of dog and mr fox when you break through or you be stood there with fox in 1 hand and dog in other ,or rolling down bank with them both (done that one myself ) always respect the land and landowners and always backfill your holes and leave things as you found them ,like you said at begining about getting permision its getting harder all the time as a lot of the old time farmers are popping there cloggs and them farms get built on or renovated ,ive lost a lot of land this way ,but keep at it and you should keep getting bits here ...... hope this helps and is jmo on your post

ON YOUR PICTURE THE DOG IS SHAKING A FOX,NOW I DONT WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN ARSE BUT TO ME THE JOB IS DONE.THE DOG WILL REMEMBER THE SENT OF CHARLIE AND THE FUN HE HAD SHAKING IT AND THE REST IS UP TO BREEDING, AS THEY SAY ITS UP TO HIM AND GOD NOW. GOOD LUCK

[dfee 1]

if you do go out on your own and end up digging be careful digging alone can be more dangerous as theres no one keeping an eye on the dig in case of cracks appearing and the lot caving in on you,good luck anyway.

[bigdan 11]

mate you can join me rat pack im starting or come rabbiting at anytime i live 2 minutea away from you and might have some permission in salisbury for digging p m if interested

[higgins 75]

this way of starting a terrier has it's benefits and disadvantages.Firstly you get to see how the dog does his work without the distractions of other dogs being present,the dog gets used to hunting with you.You have to trust the dog's nose,if he says 'now't in' give him the benefit because he can't smell anything.You'll know if there's something in,the dog will give it away,tail wagging furiously,,a determined effort to get in the hole reinforced with some digging from the terrier,you can test this at this point by walking off and calling him after you if he refuses to follow you, then he's saying there's something in.This observation will pay you back many times,such a simple thing,but in the begginning you have to trust the dog's nose and determination to allow him to do what he wants.Your job is to take him to the most likely places where Charlie roams and goes to ground,time after time you will have to do this until he drops in on one.

The disadvanges with hunting on your own is when the dig ends up being deeper and longer than you thought,so it's best to have a few mobile numbers of 'reliable people' who would come and help you dig your dog especially at a critical time as this example,good luck pal,

Higgins.