Out of season lamping

[sikastag_1 689]

rabbit and fox are vermin so i agree with killing them whenever, hares if are sparce in a place them i would let them breed but if the place is bad and theyve become a pest then they need controlled the thing i dont aggre on is people running lurchers on female roe deer at this time of year as the roe kid is left to starve if in a large wooded plantation and is licensed to with a rifle then again its become a pest and normally (in my experience shooting deer and working with stalkers) they will shoot the roe kid (s) at the same time so nothings left to starve i definetly do not agree on people running dogs on female deer in the summer.

You sound like a rifle man to me and riflemen are the biggest vermin in the countryside.

 

 

 

your right i do a bit of rifle shooting, also have terriers, waiting on a lurcher pup, go out with lurchers often also go out with harris hawks and i do a lot of ferreting, dont give a f**k if you think riflemen are the biggest vermin to me youve just told me without sayin it that your a dickhead thats narrow minded and cause i dont like something you obviously do you think you can comment on me, i agree with everything else riflemen and lurchermen, terriermen, huntsmen etc etc do but running a dog on an out of season roe doe and leave her kid to starve is very bad crack in my opinion, then you hear them say that lands bare theres fuckall on it and you think to yourself well why the f**k is there nothing on it.......... you may look at it different, thats my opinion n theres fuckall youll say or do to change it.

Edited July 13, 2008 by grant_c

[dytkos 17,934]

Some of my permission is sporting, some is pest control. The better relationship I have with the landowner, after time, the more they realise the difficulties we have in the summer months for ferreting etc. As long as you are always "on call" if they have any specific problems, you should be able to keep your permish. Just keep making sure your about and obviously taking a bit of quarry and you'll be OK. Cheers, D.

[Guest Zak]

Does anyone know what the rabbit to cow/sheep ratio is when estimating the loss of grass is,

 

its ment to be 5 rabbits, eat the same as 1 sheep.

[countrymaid 2]

Does anyone know what it is to a cow as sheep are known to eat anything in sight.

[doga 50]

some very valid points for and against,pests if have to be controled but if any one publisises killing game out of season and leaving young on the ground to starve they have a lot to answer for,the term live and let live should aply.on a personal note i like to leave any ground un disterbed through summer if possible its more sport for winter.

[sulurian 3]

pest control is one thing , lamping cub,s ? only dickhead,s I know doing that are youngsters and feckers who shouldn,t be any where round fieldsorts. If you want to just kill stuff go round the pet shop buy some mice and get a hammer.Remember it,s called SPORT......

[inan 841]

rabbit and fox are vermin so i agree with killing them whenever, hares if are sparce in a place them i would let them breed but if the place is bad and theyve become a pest then they need controlled the thing i dont aggre on is people running lurchers on female roe deer at this time of year as the roe kid is left to starve if in a large wooded plantation and is licensed to with a rifle then again its become a pest and normally (in my experience shooting deer and working with stalkers) they will shoot the roe kid (s) at the same time so nothings left to starve i definetly do not agree on people running dogs on female deer in the summer.

Aren't leverets left to starve too?

[The one 8,585]

Ilamp all year but my spring /summer lamping is purely pest control .if i just went out in the lamping season as you put it i wouldn't be on that farmers land he would have somebody else doing it and with the amount of rabbits were killing just now who can blame the famers

[Meerihunter 7]

I go at the rabbits all year round with the dogs, ferrets and air rifle as does the other guy that shoot over the same with a rimfire and still there is damage crop, we've had horses breaking legs in rabbit holes.

 

I don't think some folk realise what numbers of rabbits, foxes some folk have to contend with.

 

As keeper I would kill every fox, stoat mink, feral cat I could whether cubs, adults whatever that was my job, by getting permission to hunt on ground the farmer/landowner is expecting some reduction in number of pests. You do what it takes to achieve this whilst trying to be as humane as possible.

 

On the other side of the coin I have Salukis litrally climbing the walls needing to hunt. 7 dogs and 17 ferrets to feed plus myself and family. What are we to do go veggie through the summer months?

 

This is life for all wild animals, every minute of every day they pit their wits and take their chances.

[blackpack 70]

i disagree with u threbb we i live most of the land is estate and what land i have got permission on is valued i have declined in the part only to find i have lost the permission As the farmer got someone else there so now i never decline also due to climate change even ferreting in the december months i was catching very young rabbits

[sikastag_1 689]

inan said:

grant_c said:

rabbit and fox are vermin so i agree with killing them whenever, hares if are sparce in a place them i would let them breed but if the place is bad and theyve become a pest then they need controlled the thing i dont aggre on is people running lurchers on female roe deer at this time of year as the roe kid is left to starve if in a large wooded plantation and is licensed to with a rifle then again its become a pest and normally (in my experience shooting deer and working with stalkers) they will shoot the roe kid (s) at the same time so nothings left to starve i definetly do not agree on people running dogs on female deer in the summer.

Aren't leverets left to starve too?

 

 

 

i aint shot a hare in a couple of years mate, them mostly rabbits, but ive planted a few thousands trees and see what happens when hares and deer get in and you need to go round and plant a few thousand again except this time you need to tube all the hardwoods and it pisses you off to say the least so like i said if they need to be shot/controlled in an area same with deer then i agree fully that it should be done just i think it should be done right, hares dont intrest me to be honest

Edited August 28, 2019 by grant_c

[threbb 0]

I go at the rabbits all year round with the dogs, ferrets and air rifle as does the other guy that shoot over the same with a rimfire and still there is damage crop, we've had horses breaking legs in rabbit holes.

 

I don't think some folk realise what numbers of rabbits, foxes some folk have to contend with.

 

As keeper I would kill every fox, stoat mink, feral cat I could whether cubs, adults whatever that was my job, by getting permission to hunt on ground the farmer/landowner is expecting some reduction in number of pests. You do what it takes to achieve this whilst trying to be as humane as possible.

 

On the other side of the coin I have Salukis litrally climbing the walls needing to hunt. 7 dogs and 17 ferrets to feed plus myself and family. What are we to do go veggie through the summer months?

 

This is life for all wild animals, every minute of every day they pit their wits and take their chances.

Why dont you just get a job and go to the shops for food like anyone else youre not Tarzan for christsake.

[threbb 0]

rabbit and fox are vermin so i agree with killing them whenever, hares if are sparce in a place them i would let them breed but if the place is bad and theyve become a pest then they need controlled the thing i dont aggre on is people running lurchers on female roe deer at this time of year as the roe kid is left to starve if in a large wooded plantation and is licensed to with a rifle then again its become a pest and normally (in my experience shooting deer and working with stalkers) they will shoot the roe kid (s) at the same time so nothings left to starve i definetly do not agree on people running dogs on female deer in the summer.

Aren't leverets left to starve too?

 

 

 

i aint shot a hare in a couple of years mate, and the fields we go on round here with the lurchers aint got a lot of them mostly rabbits, but ive planted a few thousands trees and see what happens when hares and deer get in and you need to go round and plant a few thousand again except this time you need to tube all the hardwoods and it pisses you off to say the least so like i said if they need to be shot/controlled in an area same with deer then i agree fully that it should be done just i think it should be done right, hares dont intrest me the same way they intrest others to be fully honest i like goin out with the beagle packs for them when i get the chance but other than that i dont really bother, although where im moving to has a hare or 2 on it and weel see what happens but going out and getting 4/5 or more in a night wouldnt intrest me as much as it would others unless it was a pest control job, as for the lad saying about killing cubs in summer, if your ground doesnt have the same need for predator control than the land i go out on then if you wish you can leave cubs to grow and get sport in the winter, but as most people around me are gamekeepers and most of the ground i go out on is commercial shooting estates the same cant be done because most get their poults around july time and being a hunting man i suppose you can think of the damage/kills that a fox can do to poults so like i said if they need to be controlled then their controlled if on your ground you can let them live until winter for your sport then thats up to you but im affraid its shoot on sight on my ground and a lot of days checking holes in the cubbin season.

Anyone who plants whips or young trees without tubes or guards and stakes shouldnt be planting at all because they obviously dont have a clue and are throwing money away.

[Guest fight the ban]

Until I came on this site I never realised how many people not only lamp it seems all spring and summer but also are not in anyway ashamed of it or make any attempt to keep it quiet. To me its a matter of playing fair and letting the quarry rear there young and live the good life until battle commences once again in the autumn.I suppose some of them are fare weather men.The real winter just to much them.What possible good can come from killing during the breeding season?

 

do you have any permission? if so what do you tell the land owner when he wants rid of rabbits ect.... eeerrrmm, im just letting your rabbit population breed up so i can have more fun in winter.

[threbb 0]

pest control is one thing , lamping cub,s ? only dickhead,s I know doing that are youngsters and feckers who shouldn,t be any where round fieldsorts. If you want to just kill stuff go round the pet shop buy some mice and get a hammer.Remember it,s called SPORT......

Thats what i mean. They go out killing when its easiest to pick on cubs and leverets and then come on here bragging theyve had a good night. Cubs and leverets are stupid enough in autumn never mind in summer and these riflemen dont even get out of the truck if they can help it never mind walk for five or six hours in hard weather. What sort of press would we get if hunts started going out all year round.