Hannah Montana

[hmr 17 0]

lips look like they could suck a mean cock

 

 

Not sure how old you are, but I find it disturbing you would say that about a 15 year old CHILD................

didnt know but idont watch as much telly and read papers better things to do with my time......... ps easy mistake she looks older

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Does anyone else find it ironic that in a time when the media is calling for the death sentence against paedophiles they're taking bolder steps by sexualising children?

 

This girl is a teenager. With this sort of exposure I'll be amazed if she isn't doing a Britney in a few years. Millions of dollars and living a lifestyle that is anything but normal. She might turn out normal but show me a child star that has.

 

The sad thing, I think, is how this effects the rest of the teenage girls that look up to her. With this being pushed earlier and earlier, even to the extent of some of the department stores making lingerie for pre-teens, what sort of society are we creating?

 

Kids have always wanted to grow up fast but how fast is too fast? How would you feel if your 11 year old daughter wanted to emulate Miss Montana in her art? And how would some of the comments made, on this thread, make you feel every time she left the house?

 

I'm sure the picture has been done very tastefully and in accordance with the law, in it's respective photo studio, but while this girl struggles to demonstrate that she's now a woman, what is the knock on effect with her legion of fans? The 9 year old girls and now the growing army of middle aged men?

[stone-cold 0]

Does anyone else find it ironic that in a time when the media is calling for the death sentence against paedophiles they're taking bolder steps by sexualising children?

 

This girl is a teenager. With this sort of exposure I'll be amazed if she isn't doing a Britney in a few years. Millions of dollars and living a lifestyle that is anything but normal. She might turn out normal but show me a child star that has.

 

The sad thing, I think, is how this effects the rest of the teenage girls that look up to her. With this being pushed earlier and earlier, even to the extent of some of the department stores making lingerie for pre-teens, what sort of society are we creating?

 

Kids have always wanted to grow up fast but how fast is too fast? How would you feel if your 11 year old daughter wanted to emulate Miss Montana in her art? And how would some of the comments made, on this thread, make you feel every time she left the house?

 

I'm sure the picture has been done very tastefully and in accordance with the law, in it's respective photo studio, but while this girl struggles to demonstrate that she's now a woman, what is the knock on effect with her legion of fans? The 9 year old girls and now the growing army of middle aged men?

very well put if i had a young daughter i'd be worried if she emulated "hanah"

[hmr 17 0]

you changed your tune

[SNAP SHOT 194]

i think the picture is well taken from an artistic point of view. i think the lipstick is O.T.T. (over the top) but she looks far older than 15.

i like something about her eyes, shes a stunning young girl,

who maybe under pressure did this photo shoot. but 15 is a touch young........... P.S. i'm no perv.

But it's a messed up world we live in today....................

[paddy.t 5]

shes fit by the way im only 16

 

 

gotta agree will ( im 15 )

[BlueCoyote 0]

the world is no more messed up now than it was 50, 70, 100, or 400 years ago.

 

think about it and put it into perspective..... If this was the year 1821 Once she reached the of thirteen or so she would be pushed onto society, to be looked up and down as if she were piece of live stock, then forced into a marriage with a strange man probably over the age of forty, and popping out babies until it killed her.... or until HE killed her. it was legal to do that back then you know.

 

today's world is almost too over protective of its children. i wont say thats ALWAYS a bad thing, but you know as well as i do when you were a teen if your parents said NO: drinking, drugs, sex, etc then most of you probably ran as fast as you could do those things once their backs were turned.. some probably didnt even care if their backs were turned. with children, no matter the age, if you make a big deal about something being taboo then you're drawing more attraction to it. its the whole Adam and Eve thing... the forbidden fruit... the tree of knowledge.... if you walked out in a crowded room and shouted DONT LOOK AT ME!!! what do you think will happen?

 

True enough if she was a normal girl off the street this photo wouldnt cause any sort of commotion what so ever in the world.

I'm not sure what the parents were thinking but yes they should have seen this "scandal" coming over the horizon. MAYBE they all wanted this to happen? As a sort of FU to the media and critics. maybe it would have been wiser and a better idea if they had WAITED until she was, oh i dont know, 18? i dont think there are more or less perverts out there either. they've always been around doing their thing for centuries. however most of them wouldnt have been considered perverts if you go back a few hundred years. it was natural and common sense for a girl to marry an older man. most of the times he was established in life and was settled down and could support a family... but in today's world a man is branded a pervert no matter what age he is for wanting the SAME thing he wanted when he hit puberty.....

And how many remember the announcements when the Olson twins were "Legal"??? i mean thats almost encouraging the pervs out there! its like everyone was counting down the seconds before the hunt begins!! jeez...

 

my POV is.... the amount of skin showing in that picture is less than what she probably shows when she goes swimming. and i've watched that show a couple of times... the way she dresses is like that of any teen girl wanting to be sexy. if she was dressed in a brown potato sack and wearing hiking boots she wouldnt have this super star image((well maybe she would around here!!)). her clothes are always form fitting, showing off those curves. she doesnt HAVE to take her clothes off for men and teen age boys alike to get a woody.

 

i read someones comments last night in a blog about this picture.... which got me even more steamed. MC is a healthy girl, but you can see a little bit of rib on her. THATS NOT BAD! it doesnt mean you're anorexic to show some ribs. i am an avid fancier of working dogs like to see at least three ribs on a dog. its a lean, healthy physique. but this one persons comment was like "Oh great!! now all the anorexic girls of the world will use her as thinsperation!"..... it would probably be a good thing if they did use her as inspiration because then they wouldnt be anorexic, dont you think?

 

people just go way too far over the top in some things. she is now anorexic AND a teenage nympho? please....

 

i havent got the time to look up the differences between porn and art, but this is certainly not porn....

Edited May 5, 2008 by BlueCoyote

[BlueCoyote 0]

Hannah Montana, anyone even watched it? My 11yr old daughter loves it, personally I think it's shite!

 

Billy Ray Cyrus certainly has a lot to answer for other than that crap song 'achy breaky heart'!!

 

i dont like the show either to be honest, if its on my tv its usually by accident. the acting is crap, and i'm not a fan of that genre of music.

and i think i was the only girl in the entire united states that HATED achey breaky heart and the man that sang it .....

my dad changed the lyrics to "dont smell my farts, my inky stinky farts"

[ChrisJones 7,973]

BC. I don't think I was having a go at the picture itself more the way it's been pulled up by the media. It's not a naughty picture by any stretch of the word it's the way the whole debate has been dragged out. To her that may have been for private use only... but celebrities will never get a private life no matter how much they complain about exposure. I don't see that picture as porn but, likewise, I don't see it as art. I see it as clever marketing. That's one clever publicist, paving her way into her adult acting career. People pay millions for that kind of exposure. She certainly didn't. I mean we're arguing the toss on a hunting forum... that's priceless marketing!

 

From day one these people are pumped full of money and treated the exact same way that you say. Pushed onto the world and treated like a piece of livestock. For the Disney Corporation she's a commodity, first and foremost. She's a rich girl because of it and I'll shed no tear for how she chooses to live her life. That's up to her and her parents, and when the time comes, up to her. If she wrecks... shame.

 

My gripe is at the media. One minute they're witchhunting paedophiles, the next they're trying to turn kids into sex objects. The irony can be seen in a few British tabloids, most days of the week. As you rightly point out the world is no more messed up now than it was 50, 70, 100, or 400 years ago, but then there was never this much access to information... even 15 years ago the Internet as nothing like it is now. I would like to think trying to protect our kids from the early onset of adulthood is something to be encouraged. They grow up just as fast as they did in the past and that's not always a good thing. I don't think kids should be wrapped up in cotton wool but like ways I don't think that seven year olds should be buying lingerie, either.

 

This whole debate has pulled up because she's 15. Some are calling it art. Some are calling it porn. She may have wanted an arty picture for the bedroom wall but instead it's a raging debate that's spanning at least two continents. I call that shrewd business. If it wasn't for this picture I wouldn't even know who she is. Whichever side of the fence you're on this girl is a major influence on a lot of girls in the UK and the US. I certainly wouldn't want my 15 year old to pose for those kinds of pictures and what do you think will be on the Christmas wish list, this year, mums and dads?

 

The big deal here is the media. If they refused to show these pictures, they wouldn't look like hypocrites and we'd all be arguing about the amount of posts I delete instead. At least I can thank her for that.

Edited May 6, 2008 by ChrisJones
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[Guest WILF]

. I would like to think trying to protect our kids from the early onset of adulthood is something to be encouraged.

 

It is...........as usual amigo, you have a handle on this debate.

[BlueCoyote 0]

the link didnt load, but i get the point. that particular topic has been a subject of debate in another forum as well..

 

i am with you 100% that its the media making the mountain out of the mole hill. check this girl out

http://models.com/oftheminute/?p=1157

she is fifteen, in a similar pose, wearing similar attire. but she isnt being called "corrupted innocence" and the photographer isnt being accused of taking advantage of the youth.

 

the thing i dont buy into - as far as her influence is concerned- is that this picture will encourage other young girls to go out and pose naked. i might be wrong in doing so, but i do believe our kids are smarter than that. most anyway... the thing about her tv show is that they often times talk about boyfriends (what is a fifteen year old girl doing with a boyfriend?!?!*i'm looking at you from a prude's perspective*) i'm sure they arent playing a friendly game Monopoly!

 

i have only watched three or four episodes of her show and there is always a teen age hot topic going on. one episode she was "forced" to pretend that her brother was her boyfriend.... and i havent heard anyone shouting "incest!" in her direction.

 

i would like to think the parents who allow their kids to watch shows like this will not take for granted the information being dolled out. its up to them to explain the facts of life.

my own mom never did that. i just did the best i could lol and i've been on the internet since i was 13! i was also staying up late on purpose to see those shows parents dont like their kids to watch. but while at the theatre she would make me wait in the lobby during some piece of crap kissy face scene. i think my mom was more naive than i was!!

for all of what i've seen as a kid i dont think i was corrupted much. notice i say much lol but i am not that easily lead astray..... my little half sister was out riding around with boys long before i was. but she was an airhead.. still is... Her mom had blocks on the internet, tv, and chose what books she could read. they were also avid church goers....

 

which is why i say when parents make something absolutely forbidden that is where you will find your kids.. not all, but most.

my biggest fear is to over shelter my kids and then suddenly they are in a situation they have no clue how to control. fortunately i dont have any girls so i havent got half the worries about them being taken advantage of or over powered.... but i would like to know that in the future my boys will not be taking advantage or over powering someone because hormones tell them to do it.

and i HOPE TO GOD they know better than to copy-cat something they see in the movies!! they have minds of their own, i want to make sure they will use them.

hell, when i was 12 i saw "Leon the Professional" and wanted to be a "cleaner" lol ....but that lasted until the credits started rolling...

 

 

 

anyway ramble over.

yes media sucks. and i love the comparison you made about them condemning pedo's but at the same time sexualising young girls.

Edited May 6, 2008 by BlueCoyote

[ChrisJones 7,973]

the thing i dont buy into - as far as her influence is concerned- is that this picture will encourage other young girls to go out and pose naked. i might be wrong in doing so, but i do believe our kids are smarter than that. most anyway... the thing about her tv show is that they often times talk about boyfriends (what is a fifteen year old girl doing with a boyfriend?!?!*i'm looking at you from a prude's perspective*) i'm sure they arent playing a friendly game Monopoly!

I can pretty much agree with all of that except the highlighted bit... It might be different in the US but British kids are generally thick as s**t. They think they know everything and looking at the way teenage lads, and girls, dress and behave they're very heavily influenced by clever marketing media. Don't believe me? I went back and fixed the links in the previous post but you can see them here and another one here. If you can get through the bit about bad diets you can read about pre-pubescent lingerie and poll dancing kits in the toy section of one of our supermarkets. Also look at our council estate kids and gangster rap. Everyone is talkin shit yo and there are probably more handguns, with teenagers, than any fieldsports group. We're the bad guys because we take our kids hunting. They let them sit at home and listen to the exploits of their idols, snorting coke and shooting people over sour drug deals.

 

Listening to the youngsters, in and around family and friends, you get a pretty good picture about current favourites. Everything from dress to speech. I mean we hate text talk but kids are actually f***in speaking it now! I don't think the transition from seeing arty pictures to a Christmas wish list is so far fetched.

 

Either this girl is very clever, or has a clever agent. I can't see anything other than her securing more adult roles in the future. Her target market was pre-teen and early teen but she can only pull that off for a short amount of time. But it's the same methodology that makes teenage boys where baggy pants, wear their caps back to front, and threaten to put 'a cap in yo' ass.' Unfortunately dumbass parents will cave into this kind of shit, and the cycle will continue, but that's down to natural selection. If anyone reading this thinks they may be a dumbass parent then you can stop the rot by reading this article.