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just wondering how good they are, because i have seen a few advertisments in the country mans weekly, and just want to know if any of you have one or have seen one work. if you have any pictures post them on here and it would be great

if they were that good mate he would not have to splat adds every were get in with a few local lads get out and watch afew dogs work for me you cant get better than a bull x but i am byast

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grendal your spot on. i brought a collie x greyhound of dh afew year back and he told me they wouldnt be much good for hare because of the breeding. but i took achance and on her first season she took 35 hares pre ban. and hundreds of rabbits.

 

mother to mine hancock was taking hare no bother and mine would 2 pre ban lol missed a big bunny last night by a whisker :thumbs:

should not be chasing big bunnies on the lamp at this time athe year???????? 8):no:
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grendal your spot on. i brought a collie x greyhound of dh afew year back and he told me they wouldnt be much good for hare because of the breeding. but i took achance and on her first season she took 35 hares pre ban. and hundreds of rabbits.

 

mother to mine hancock was taking hare no bother and mine would 2 pre ban lol missed a big bunny last night by a whisker :thumbs:

should not be chasing big bunnies on the lamp at this time athe year???????? 8):no:

 

 

i didnt go out chasing big bunnys this time of year it was by accident with my pup on land i controll if you read other articles it says why and dont need to justify it to you :doh:

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grendal your spot on. i brought a collie x greyhound of dh afew year back and he told me they wouldnt be much good for hare because of the breeding. but i took achance and on her first season she took 35 hares pre ban. and hundreds of rabbits.

 

mother to mine hancock was taking hare no bother and mine would 2 pre ban lol missed a big bunny last night by a whisker :thumbs:

should not be chasing big bunnies on the lamp at this time athe year???????? 8):no:

 

 

i didnt go out chasing big bunnys this time of year it was by accident with my pup on land i controll if you read other articles it says why and dont need to justify it to you :doh:

fair play mate you dont need to justify your self to anyone and stop calling them big bunnys if you mean hare say hare and if you come accross one kill it

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:big_boss: hi all i have just got apup from these kennels its was 8 months old when igot it the f*****g thing still wont come 2 me even though she has been here amonth and it wont stop barkin biggest waste off money do not bother with them

another 250 wasted i reacon!! this man should be banned shows the type of paper the countrymans weekly is ha why doesnt he advertise in edrd and as for well i will stop now before i rant all night

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:big_boss: hi all i have just got apup from these kennels its was 8 months old when igot it the f*****g thing still wont come 2 me even though she has been here amonth and it wont stop barkin biggest waste off money do not bother with them

 

 

How come you bought an 8 month old pup?

Was it one that a previous owner had returned?

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grendal your spot on. i brought a collie x greyhound of dh afew year back and he told me they wouldnt be much good for hare because of the breeding. but i took achance and on her first season she took 35 hares pre ban. and hundreds of rabbits.

 

mother to mine hancock was taking hare no bother and mine would 2 pre ban lol missed a big bunny last night by a whisker :thumbs:

should not be chasing big bunnies on the lamp at this time athe year???????? 8):no:

 

 

i didnt go out chasing big bunnys this time of year it was by accident with my pup on land i controll if you read other articles it says why and dont need to justify it to you :doh:

fair play mate you dont need to justify your self to anyone and stop calling them big bunnys if you mean hare say hare and if you come accross one kill it

:hmm:

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name=\'dickies_dogz\' post=\'498157\' date=\'Apr 17 2008, 09:15 PM\']:big_boss: hi all i have just got apup from these kennels its was 8 months old when igot it the f*****g thing still wont come 2 me even though she has been here amonth and it wont stop barkin biggest waste off money do not bother with them

 

 

 

 

What the hell do you expect? Unsocialised, uneducated: probably so tramatised at finding itself in an alien world with someone who obviously doesn\'t have the first idea of what the pup is going through! If you buy a pup from there it will never have been out of the kennel it was raised in: just imagine the fear and worry that pup is going through.

I think Hancock is very wrong selling pups of that age to just anyone: even in good experienced hands some will never completely get over the lack of socialising so essential during the first months of a pup\'s life. IMO he should have any non sellers PTS once past the age of 10 weeks. I don\'t condone this either, but recently I have been hearing about more and more pups sold at a later stage, like 6 to 8 months and the trouble their new owners are having with them.

Unfortunately there\'s a lot of young lads about who see the pup as an almost \'ready to start\' option, thinking they can just take it out and it will catch stuff. Far from it: those pups are like a 12 week old in a 9 month old body. They have to learn everything at an age where that learning is more difficult; the stuff they should have learned as a 3 month old pup doesn\'t come easily to an older unsocialised pup, and it is a proven fact that once the \'golden\' learning age has come and gone you\'ll never get a dog to accept some things: strange dogs being one of them: they\'ll either be shy or aggressive through fear.

I feel really strongly about this, to the extent that I would strongly advise most people NOT to take on a Hancock pup if it is older than 8 -10 weeks, unless you can be absolutely sure that the dog is of such an outgoing temperament that you think it will cope and more to the point, if you have the experience in dogs to overcome the problems which will inevitably arise from taking on an unsocialised uneducated pup of Collie breeding: sensitive, intelligent and therefore more likely to be traumatised than a laid back type of animal.

Of course there are always going to be the exceptional dogs, those who will overcome any amount of neglect (I mean this in terms of bonding, learning etc.) But how will most people be able to assess all this just by seeing a pup bouncing up and down in the run it has been in all its life: of course it should be confident and happy in that environment: its all it knows, and Hancock doesn\'t ill treat his dogs, this I know.

Take that pup away from everything it has ever known and it will crumble into a mass of nerves and fear. It takes an exceptionally good trainer to get such a pup through all that, and as I said before, the fear of new things will probably stay with that dog all its life. Just imagine how little chance of becoming a \'whole\' dog that pup will have if the new owner has no understanding of what the dog is going through, let alone the skills to help the pup overcome these problems.

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:big_boss: hi all i have just got apup from these kennels its was 8 months old when igot it the f*****g thing still wont come 2 me even though she has been here amonth and it wont stop barkin biggest waste off money do not bother with them

 

 

How come you bought an 8 month old pup?

Was it one that a previous owner had returned?

What the hell do you expect?

 

 

I'll assume you're not talking to me there Skycat :laugh:

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