Rodesian Ridgebacks on Preditors?

[Guest RookGuy]

This is another dog that seems tailor made for coursing preditors (like yotes). A full-on sighthound bred to hunt (bay) lions. Has any one ever hunted them on medium cats or, more importantly, coyotes? (Yes I have a hard-on for Coyotes. For whatever reason I think Coyotes are the most deserving of things to hunt. Them and rats. Cute little squirls don't bother any thing. Racons get in your trash I suppose. Posums aren't hurting any one. We don't have any Badgers. I suppose that you can eat rabbits and squirls but that seems like an awfull lot of work for a little bit of meat. Yotes though? WE get them in the city and the country. They are too big to be scavengers and too smal to be bold hunters [here abouts they are 60 pounds or so and go in packs]. They get into trash take small pets and menace small children. They attack big prey and livestock but seem to lack the gameness to finish it. They just tear chunks off of living animals and eat them, sort of like the way a critter ges through a vegitable patch taking one bite out of hundreds of veggies. Yotes are starting to menace children. DIE COYOTE DIE!)

[Lennard 10]

The notion that a Rhodesian ridgeback is a sighthound is a relatively new one and FALSE in my opinion...it looks related to the rest of the scent hounds and was never used for coursing or catching "sighthound" style. Maybe there is sighthound in the make up of the breed?

Some well bred ones are fast for sure and game too so I guess they might be usefull...

 

L

[Guest RookGuy]

The notion that a Rhodesian ridgeback is a sighthound is a relatively new one and FALSE in my opinion...it looks related to the rest of the scent hounds and was never used for coursing or catching "sighthound" style. Maybe there is sighthound in the make up of the breed?

Some well bred ones are fast for sure and game too so I guess they might be usefull...

 

L

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Well, they are certainly billed as sighthounds and the (few) that I have seen all have the double-extension/suspention (whatever) stride and some strains even have a nice rounded back just like a GH. Most have other physical features of sighthounds as well. True you have to look hard to see past those big, floppy hound-dog ears! The heavy-set structure and head are from scenthound ancestors and they are a mixed breed mongrle dog that is now a real breed.

[Guest thunderbelly]

Try an Italian bred Cane Corso. Although it must be Italian bred 'cause the Americans have already screwed that breed up. It is a fast strong boarhound from Italy. The Fila Brassilero is also a strong fast boarhound although it comes from Argentina.

[Kye 77]

Why not just try what all the coyote hunters/coursers are using?...staghounds!

Kye,..

[DiStuRBeD 0]

Why not just try what all the coyote hunters/coursers are using?...staghounds!

Kye,..

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some of ur stags over there look good from the few pics ive seen, do you know of any good sites in the US for staghounds mate?

 

best looking stag ive seen is from that book gazehounds and coursing, that "Sport"

 

www.boardogs.com also under the crossbreeds section has some staghounds/kangaroo dogs

 

u would all probably enjoy reading about them and seeing the few pics

[bolio 51]

100% Kye!

Why try to reinvent the wheel?

[Guest Eggers]

best looking stag ive seen is from that book gazehounds and coursing, that "Sport"

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I have seen a handful of pics of "Sport". A very fine (to my eye) looking large shag staghound!

 

Try this website: http://high-lonesomebooks.net/Hounds/

Then click on the left button labelled "The Hounds". Sport is a little ways down the page. Lots'a good reading here though! If you backup to just http://high-lonesomebooks.net/, you can get some reasonably priced books.

[Guest RookGuy]

100% Kye!

Why try to reinvent the wheel?

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Well, using a dog breed that has been around for hundreds of years isn't exactly reinventing the wheel! Besides, in New Englnd there aren't a lot of people selling "Staghounds", which re jut big Lurchers which are just mut dogs. (I may be wrong on this but from my semi-uninformed spot that's how it looks).

[Guest RookGuy]

best looking stag ive seen is from that book gazehounds and coursing, that "Sport"

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I have seen a handful of pics of "Sport". A very fine (to my eye) looking large shag staghound!

 

Try this website: http://high-lonesomebooks.net/Hounds/

Then click on the left button labelled "The Hounds". Sport is a little ways down the page. Lots'a good reading here though! If you backup to just http://high-lonesomebooks.net/, you can get some reasonably priced books.

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Eggers,

WOW, great site. It looks like there's no real use for coursing any thing in the North East except for some small criter or fox that a terrier might bolt and a whippet or recycled greyhound can do that. But, that was one of the reasons that I was asking about Ridgebacks: because the ARE a mix of thinggs and can use nose as well as eyes and might do better chasing in the woods?

[Simoman 110]

The various Kennel club organisations are good at beefing up the history of a breed but try finding anyone today who breeds and works ridgebacks to testing quarry on a regular basis Why not give yourself a better chance of success and get a dog such as a staghound that has generations of dogs that work. There may not be any breeders in your region but I'd rather travel or get one sent. I think calling staghounds and lurchers "Mutt dogs" is slightly patronising, they have beedn carefully bred around the world for hunting a variety of different quarry.

[Kye 77]

I couldnt find any lads in my area that bred them, so i hooked up with a guy (who i am know firm friends with) in OK...im in NV...thats a fair ole drive...there are boys that ship hounds/dogs to certain parts for fair prices...i know there are some very good dog men in NY state, that hunt staghounds...they use them to catch coyotes that are being pushed buy hounds, alot like many of the gun packs do in wales (before the ban, putting guns and lurchers in certain areas to catch runners/bolters)...one guy has a litter mate to my bitch.

There out there, you just have to look...

Also if Ridgebacks where good for Coyotes, wouldnt there be no Staghounds?...there there for a reason, the reason being that the best dogs for Coyotes are Staghounds.

Kye,..

[Guest Rey]

This is another dog that seems tailor made for coursing preditors (like yotes). A full-on sighthound bred to hunt (bay) lions.

 

From what I've seen of these dogs on jackrabbits, I would say that they are too slow for coyot's. Now if you had a good stag or grey or whatever to catch, they might help with the kill, but then again they were breed to bay lions and not kill them.

Here are some pics of old stags from my site.

Rey

 

http://personal.palouse.net/valeska/staghounds-1.htm

http://personal.palouse.net/valeska/staghounds-2.htm

http://personal.palouse.net/valeska/staghounds-3.htm

http://personal.palouse.net/valeska/lodman-staghounds.html

[DiStuRBeD 0]

ive been to both those sites (valeska and Dutchs site)

 

they are both good, and yeah i am a huge fan of the hairy stags, or smooth stags over here, which are called kangaroo dogs

 

as far a ridgeys go, a south african fella put me onto some good advice...

 

he said, a lions teeth are inches longs, and their claws are sharp as needles and inches long, their paw is the size of your head, now a dogs claws are short and blunt, and their teeth are half an inch at best, their paws you could wrap in your own

 

u see they could not find a dog that was tough enough to hunt lions, so they bred one dumb enough to hunt them :11: :11:

 

but seriously, like here the stags are the best for our situation

[ruby 7]

This bitch is Bull/Ridgeback/greyhound and is an excellent worker.

 

 

 

Ruby