Gold rush.

[mushroom 14,052]

3 hours ago, gnipper said:

Growing up i was always warned away from mucking about out there on the marsh or coast by my Dad who had known of plenty that died out there so I've always been wary.  My family would have all been shrimpers and fishermen at one time also fowling on the marsh, it wasn't that long ago either. 

Up our way it is very dangerous if you don't know the lay of the land. Look at those Chinese lot that all got caught out by the tide off Cleveleys/Fleetwood. I bought an old big red that a fella had been using for years up there. He took me out once and Jesus does the tide move in quick when you're up to a mile offshore in the middle of quicksand. Lack of knowledge and panic would be a killer out there.

Signal crayfish is the way to go these days I'm told

Just make sure to get the DEFRA license though

[jukel123 9,357]

1 hour ago, mushroom said:

Up our way it is very dangerous if you don't know the lay of the land. Look at those Chinese lot that all got caught out by the tide off Cleveleys/Fleetwood. I bought an old big red that a fella had been using for years up there. He took me out once and Jesus does the tide move in quick when you're up to a mile offshore in the middle of quicksand. Lack of knowledge and panic would be a killer out there.

Signal crayfish is the way to go these days I'm told

Just make sure to get the DEFRA license though

People were cockling who knew absolutely nothing . They couldn't even read a tide book. Tides nearly always come earlier at night and earlier still with a wind behind them. A big tide can you knock your off your feet if it catches you. It can roll a  fully weighted tractor with ease.

Same with sand, many didn't know how to recognise quicksand or how to get out of it. They did not even take the precaution of parking vehicles on  heavy boards to spread the weight. There were many, many close shaves.

Some of the experienced fishermen would flash lights and sound horns to warn others of an encroaching tide, others just said 'f**k em', they are competition.

Money brought the worst out of people for sure. It doesn't take much for 'society' to completely break down.

Edited yesterday at 16:13 by jukel123

[Halfhound 98]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

People were cockling who knew absolutely nothing . They couldn't even read a tide book. Tides always come earlier at night and earlier still with a wind behind them. A big tide can you knock your off your feet if it catches you. It can roll a tractor with ease. Same with sand, many didn't know how to recognise quicksand or even take the precaution of parking vehicles on boards to spread the weight. There were many, many close shaves.

Some of the experienced fishermen would flash lights and sound horns to warn others of an encroaching tide, others just said 'f**k em', they are competition.

Money brought the worst out of people for sure. It doesn't take much for 'society' to completely break down.

I’m not sure where your based but I have been in places where once the tide turned it would flood as quick as you could walk especially leading into the big springs those couple of nights where you’d a big jump were always the best nights for a salmon if you were that way inclined. I was told this week the fisheries board have managed to do somebody who was out fishing with a rod because they could see fish in the floor of his boat from a drone? The rod man and anglers were some of the most spiteful fuckers that god ever put breath into but now that theres hardly anybody poaching anymore they’ve found themselves to be the targets silly fuckers

[mushroom 14,052]

2 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

I’m not sure where your based but I have been in places where once the tide turned it would flood as quick as you could walk especially leading into the big springs those couple of nights where you’d a big jump were always the best nights for a salmon if you were that way inclined. I was told this week the fisheries board have managed to do somebody who was out fishing with a rod because they could see fish in the floor of his boat from a drone? The rod man and anglers were some of the most spiteful fuckers that god ever put breath into but now that theres hardly anybody poaching anymore they’ve found themselves to be the targets silly fuckers

They wouldn't march with us and now look at the scrutiny THEIR sport is now facing. Just as predicted back in 2005!

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[Halfhound 98]

2 minutes ago, mushroom said:

They wouldn't march with us and now look at the scrutiny THEIR sport is now facing. Just as predicted back in 2005!

Divide and conquer. There’s an old quote I’ve heard before about people standing by and seeing people f****d over. Then when they are the ones in trouble there’s nobody left to stand with them. 

[Halfhound 98]

I came across these documentaries a couple of weeks back a few good characters on this billingsgate one. Men who I’d say would still have no issue in doing a deal for abit of fish. I’m not sure if the market is still open like it is in the documentary maybe someone here would know? If it was I’d like to give it a visit 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,936]

@jukel123When I was a kid, about 12 /13 a gang of us went on a bike ride one day from our little town and we went up the scotch side to Gretna market. 

We ended up at our mates aunties house for tea . I’ll never forget her face when she realised we had biked over the solway from eastriggs to anthorn . 

she went f***ing mental and we cycled home from there in pitch black. The idea of my kids doing that is horrific 

 

 

[jukel123 9,357]

1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

@jukel123When I was a kid, about 12 /13 a gang of us went on a bike ride one day from our little town and we went up the scotch side to Gretna market. 

We ended up at our mates aunties house for tea . I’ll never forget her face when she realised we had biked over the solway from eastriggs to anthorn . 

she went f***ing mental and we cycled home from there in pitch black. The idea of my kids doing that is horrific 

 

 

Geez, I'll have to go for a lie down after reading that.

You were very,very lucky. A tourist got stuck in quicksand and drowned not far from there last year.

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[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,936]

Honestly ,

23 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Geez, I'll have to go for a lie down after reading that.

You were very,very lucky. A tourist got stuck in quicksand and drowned not far from there last year.

It wasn’t planned ,there was about 8 or 9 of us and we just ended up on the foreshore then gradually started biking out on the flats until we decided to head to a house we could see in the distance on the Cumbrian shore . 

We thought we were gonna land at about rockcliffe but instead we were well down the coast and it was a long old trudge back through wigton and Carlisle to home . 

we had our pals little brother with us as well , he’d have been about 10 years old 

im sure someone came and got him from their aunties house if I remember rightly 

 

[jukel123 9,357]

I wouldnt like to have your body washed up in my haaf net. Lots of people including kids drowned in my lifetime on the Solway. I've haaf netted over fifty years. Used to be good fun and you could earn a few bob, but even in the old days it was only beer money.

Going way back, before the war it was possible to make a living in the summer months.

It's all catch and release now and not many are willing to risk their neck for no reward. I still go but I pick my tides and weather conditions. It's a young man's game but I just like being out there.

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[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,936]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I wouldnt like to have your body washed up in my haaf net. Lots of people including kids drowned in my lifetime on the Solway. I've haaf netted over fifty years. Used to be good fun and you could earn a few bob, but even in the old days it was only beer money.

Going way back, before the war it was possible to make a living in the summer months.

It's all catch and release now and not many are willing to risk their neck for no reward. I still go but I pick my tides and weather conditions. It's a young man's game but I just like being out there.

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I’ve always wanted to do that . Any good tales buddy ? 
 

it’s a more out west thing then from where I am from 

[jukel123 9,357]

47 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I’ve always wanted to do that . Any good tales buddy ? 
 

it’s a more out west thing then from where I am from 

f****n millions of tales.

I remember one klondyke of a tide where 7 of us caught over 100 salmon.

I remember having to come out of the water one night because of floating dead cattle. They were spooked in a thunderstorm and came over from Cumbria trying to reach the Scots side. Horrible. If you got one caught up in the net you were a gonna.

I cracked a rib once chasing a salmon in shallow water. I fell heavily. If you were young and fit ,certain conditions meant you could run after them and net them. There were a lot of dummies spat out if one man beat you to a fish. A lot of ego at stake. Somebody got hit with an axe one night! The cops couldn't charge because they couldn't tell if the assault had happened in Scotland or England. There were a lot of arguments. But I just kept out of the nonsense  for fhe most part and fished away. I went to fish not fight. But as soon as money is involved folk go bananas.

I remember going for an unexpected swim one night. Got too greedy and was swept away. Fortunately I managed to swim to the side.

There's been lads drowned over the years. The Solway can be generous and spiteful too.

"He who dreams on the bed of the Solway wakes up in another land".

Another lad was swept away and was rescued by helicopter. Very dramatic. There was only a few tried to rescue him. The rest carried on fishing. Money!!

 

Caught some unusual species: dog fish, herring, bass, squid and millions of jelly fish and flounders. A big jelly fish in the net can sweep you away. They are really heavy.

Had some great craic over the years. But it's finished now. I'm enjoying fly fishing now. Can't beat it for relaxation.

Edited 7 hours ago by jukel123

[Halfhound 98]

29 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

f****n millions of tales.

I remember one klondyke of a tide where 7 of us caught over 100 salmon.

I remember having to come out of the water one night because of floating dead cattle. They were spooked in a thunderstorm and came over from Cumbria trying to reach the Scots side. Horrible. If you got one caught up in the net you were a gonna.

I cracked a rib once chasing a salmon in shallow water. I fell heavily. If you were young and fit ,certain conditions meant you could run after them and net them. There were a lot of dummies spat out if one man beat you to a fish. Somebody got hit with an axe one night! The cops couldn't charge because they couldn't tell if the assault had happened in Scotland or England. There were a lot of arguments. But I just kept out of the nonsense  for fhe most part and fished away. I went to fish not fight. But as soon as money is involved folk go bananas.

I remember going for an unexpected swim one night. Got too greedy and was swept away. Fortunately I managed to swim to the side.

There's been lads drowned over the years. The Solway can be generous and spiteful too.

"He who dreams on the bed of the Solway wakes up in another land".

Another lad was swept away and was rescued by helicopter. Very dramatic. There was only a few tried to rescue him. The rest carried on fishing. Money!!

 

Caught some unusual species: dog fish, herring, bass, squid and millions of jelly fish and flounders. A big jelly fish in the net can sweep you away. They are really heavy.

Had some great craic over the years. But it's finished now.

Is fishing herrings in a small punt a thing on the solway? I just watched the video of the haaf netting I hadn’t ever seen that before have seen similar things but they were a more permanent thing like a trap. But the estuary looks like a place you’d get herrings in the season

[jukel123 9,357]

Just now, Halfhound said:

Is fishing herrings in a small punt a thing on the solway? I just watched the video of the haaf netting I hadn’t ever seen that before have seen similar things but they were a more permanent thing like a trap. But the estuary looks like a place you’d get herrings in the season

Funny enough I got a single herring a few year back. Buy yes back in the day there was a big herring fishery in the Solway and the Irish sea. There's a lot of whitebait get caught in puddles on the sand. I've taken them jome and eaten them.  They are a favourite dish in Spain and elsewhere.

[Halfhound 98]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Funny enough I got a single herring a few year back. Buy yes back in the day there was a big herring fishery in the Solway and the Irish sea. There's a lot of whitebait get caught in puddles on the sand. I've taken them jome and eaten them.  They are a favourite dish in Spain and elsewhere.

We still fish them in the season would usually get 10 or 12 dozen any night you’d go just for a feed and to pass around. Good old sport and nice to get out on the crisp winter nights. Always a good few trout running that time of year as well so a nice bonus. I find herrings very tastey I really enjoy them proper fish taste and very clean.