Francie, 2,816 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 That Japan has the fourth lowest sudden infant death syndrome,after they amended there child vaccine schedule in 1994,it is not mandatory for children to be vaccinated when there born tho still recommended. 1.4 in every 1000 deaths for japan an 5.9 in every 1000 deaths for USA. USA is mandatory so every child has to get them? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 29 Author Report Share Posted June 29 Sweden sids rate is even lower than Japan at 0.39 per 1000 children an they have no mandatory child vaccine program only voluntary,coincidence you decide Open Menu Sweden Decides NO Mandatory Vaccinations Sweden, a country that surpasses the United States in health markers like infant mortality rate, maternal health and well-being, and life expectancy, upheld the principle of Informed Consent for medical interventions (like vaccines) this week by voting against bills that would make vaccines mandatory. 7 new vaccination bills were introduced to the Parliament, including bills that would make vaccination mandatory for all children, introduce flu and pneumococcal vaccination for all elderly people over 65, and begin HPV vaccination for all young men. However, all bills were rejected. Sweden currently offers less than half the number of vaccine doses on their routine schedule compared to the United States, and not surprisingly, Swedish citizens are actually healthier than Americans: Sweden’s child mortality rate is only 3 per 1000 kids under 5 years old, compared to the United State’s 7 fatalities per 1000 kids* Swedish women rank 5th in the world in maternal health and well-being, compared to the United State’s 33rd place rank* Sweden’s life expectancy (ranked 15th in the world) is 3 years longer than the United States (ranked 43rd)** Despite the new mandatory vaccine law in California which requires 34 vaccine doses for every child that enters a public or private Kindergarten, most States in the US and virtually all European Nations recognize the fundamental human rights of their citizens to make unique medical decisions for themselves and their families. And outisde of the few serving the powerful Pharmaceutical lobby, most politicians and policymakers, like the Swedish Parliament, know that mandatory vaccination laws are unethical and unnecessary: Many vaccines (like whooping cough, tetanus, diphtheria, injected polio) don’t prevent disease spread from person to person anyway The risk of moderate to severe side effects makes forced vaccination ethically problematic Some vaccines, like hepatitis B vaccine for newborns, have no benefit because infants and children aren’t at risk The United Nations Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights states “Any preventive medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned . . . The consent may be withdrawn without disadvantage or prejudice.” Despite the multi-billion-dollar vaccine industry’s success in getting their products mandated in California, and their push to continue introducing new vaccine bills in other states and countries, the worldwide support of mandates seems to have stalled as public awareness of problems with vaccine safety and even efficacy continue to arise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 (edited) Amazing story if the stats on vaccine uptake reflected on this. Seeing as though both Sweden & Japan have a higher vaccine uptake than the US then it's all a load of rubbish really. Edited June 30 by Pardus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,900 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 I’m not sure if it makes a difference, I think it might, but Sweden has free universal health care, Japan has mandatory health insurance, America has neither. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,622 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, chartpolski said: I’m not sure if it makes a difference, I think it might, but Sweden has free universal health care, Japan has mandatory health insurance, America has neither. Cheers. Will be the real answer . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,900 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 32 minutes ago, mel b said: Will be the real answer . I don’t know enough about vaccines to debate the pro’s and con’s, but I am old enough to remember going to school with poor buggers wearing leg irons because of polio, a disease all but eradicated in the UK because of the vaccine. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 The legislation is kinda meaningless in drawing a conclusion. What really matters is the data on how many are actually vaccinated. Sweden could have 100% vaccination rate which would then not support what you are saying. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,859 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Weren't far off bh... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 13 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: The legislation is kinda meaningless in drawing a conclusion. What really matters is the data on how many are actually vaccinated. Sweden could have 100% vaccination rate which would then not support what you are saying. As I said earlier, the US has the lowest vaccination uptake out of the three countries he mentioned, roll your sleeves up children. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 42 minutes ago, Borr said: Weren't far off bh... Yes that is two years old not newborns borr,what is the uptake in newborns? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 5 minutes ago, Francie, said: Yes that is two years old not newborns borr,what is the uptake in newborns? Stop moving the goalposts again, SIDS doesn't just occur in newborns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, Pardus said: Stop moving the goalposts again, SIDS doesn't just occur in newborns. This is from a fact checking site that says there's no link between vaccines an sids but goes on to say that babies between 2 a 4 months get alot of vaccines an that 2 to 4 months is peak time for sids. So there's no connection at all but apparently the peak sids time of death is when there getting alot of vaccines,coincidence? While it’s natural for parents to be concerned about their baby and fearful of sudden infant death, claims about a link to vaccines are false. Extensive research and scientific review have found no evidence that vaccines cause sudden infant death. Babies receive many vaccines when they are 2 to 4 months old; this is also a peak age for sudden infant death. Just because the timeframes are similar does not mean vaccines are related. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Just now, Francie, said: This is from a fact checking site that says there's no link between vaccines an sids but goes on to say that babies between 2 a 4 months get alot of vaccines an that 2 to 4 months is peak time for sids. So there's no connection at all but apparently the peak sids time of death is when there getting alot of vaccines,coincidence? While it’s natural for parents to be concerned about their baby and fearful of sudden infant death, claims about a link to vaccines are false. Extensive research and scientific review have found no evidence that vaccines cause sudden infant death. Babies receive many vaccines when they are 2 to 4 months old; this is also a peak age for sudden infant death. Just because the timeframes are similar does not mean vaccines are related. So, what you have just posted says it all, correlation doesn't mean causation. Again, the US has the lowest vaccine uptake out of the three examples you posted, nothing to see here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 So let me get this straight a baby at 2 to 4 months gets alot of vaccines an that the peak time of death for sids but there's no connection lol The peak age for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) is between 2 and 4 months old. While SIDS can occur up to 12 months of age, most cases happen within the first six months of life, with the highest risk in the 2-4 month range. Specifically, 90% of SIDS cases occur before 6 months of age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 11 minutes ago, Pardus said: So, what you have just posted says it all, correlation doesn't mean causation. Again, the US has the lowest vaccine uptake out of the three examples you posted, nothing to see here. Yes but it has alot more population than Sweden. If you don't think there's a link that's fine,others do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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