WILF 50,134 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, chartpolski said: The decline can be traced back to various points in time; the retreat from East of Suez, the end of WW2 or even the end of WW1, but the timeline I mentioned is where I see the decline personally in my life. Cheers. Yep, understood mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,645 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 37 minutes ago, Goly said: Yes, our services are the worst they have ever been, but, on planet are you on to think that they would be better or the same if we put in less tax revenue? The bottom feeders would still be the ones suffering with even worse services. We are still relatively well off compared to many countries, how low would you be willing to accept for a bit more cash in your pocket instead of the system? Take a look at Argentina clear out the deadwood at the top and the country is flying 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,824 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Greyman said: Take a look at Argentina clear out the deadwood at the top and the country is flying Compared to comparable places like Germany and other advanced nations in the EU we are taxed less, whether they get more out of it is another debate but to cry that we are some unique victim just isn't true. Edited January 11 by Goly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,645 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 44 minutes ago, Goly said: Health care and the rest of our services, where do you think it goes mate? MPs expenses nhs diversity staff hundreds of government dead wood the House of Lords shareholders the list goes on mate we get back a minimum of what we put in all those above pull out a far more than they ever contribute its smoke and mirrors and your buying into the bull shit 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,824 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Greyman said: MPs expenses nhs diversity staff hundreds of government dead wood the House of Lords shareholders the list goes on mate we get back a minimum of what we put in all those above pull out a far more than they ever contribute its smoke and mirrors and your buying into the bull shit Ok, so, politicians have only just started claiming expenses? So are non of your other suggestions. Again, wether we are getting out of it what we could is probably right. But, does anyone seriously suggest that if we payed less taxes then services like the NHS, our education system, our welfare state would be better off for it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Greyman said: MPs expenses nhs diversity staff hundreds of government dead wood the House of Lords shareholders the list goes on mate we get back a minimum of what we put in all those above pull out a far more than they ever contribute its smoke and mirrors and your buying into the bull shit as musk said you want to cut back government have as little input from them as possible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Greyman said: MPs expenses nhs diversity staff hundreds of government dead wood the House of Lords shareholders the list goes on mate we get back a minimum of what we put in all those above pull out a far more than they ever contribute its smoke and mirrors and your buying into the bull shit wilf chart gm listen to your olders greb they have seen more lol i was going to say juckel but he’s on a mountain. in ireland hasn’t a clue what’s happening on the front line lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,824 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: wilf chart gm listen to your olders greb they have seen more lol i was going to say juckel but he’s on a mountain. in ireland hasn’t a clue what’s happening on the front line lol Other than Charts they have seen nothing other than the UK tax system, just like me and you. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,824 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I'd love to live in a tax free world, wouldn't we fecking all. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Goly said: Other than Charts they have seen nothing other than the UK tax system, just like me and you. Lol but seen 200 years to our not even 40 lol different areas and life’s from a dell boy to a lord (chart) lol and they all come to the same conclusion mate lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,824 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: but seen 200 years to our not even 40 lol different areas and life’s from a dell boy to a lord (chart) lol and they all come to the same conclusion mate lol Think that's called senility lol. They say they agree with taxes, they're just confused as to how much. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 chart is a little older he can remember bad times then it got better before nosediving wilf gm you me we can only remember decline lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,955 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Goly said: I'd love to live in a tax free world, wouldn't we fecking all. Lol At least not taxed on pensions for a start. I tend to agree with points on both sides of the argument on this thread and I think it's down to how our taxes are spent and used unwisely that gets all our backs up. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, tatsblisters said: At least not taxed on pensions for a start. I tend to agree with points on both sides of the argument on this thread and I think it's down to how our taxes are spent and used unwisely that gets all our backs up. that’s it mate taxes are good if when the money is used right think of the trillions upon trillions we have wasted since 2000 on wars and immigration all to benefit a few 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,880 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 our tax paid for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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