THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Seagull said: We are not comparing him to Kenyans, we are comparing him to people of his ancestry, West Africans, which, given the right upbringing, could beat his records. No they can’t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago For some reason the site doesn’t like the content and links I’ve included and won’t let me post it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: No they can’t Of course they could given the right environment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago A list of West African sprinters times, so, given the selection and the privileges of the US, who knows what they could achieve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Seagull said: Of course they could given the right environment. 4 minutes ago, Seagull said: A list of West African sprinters times, so, given the selection and the privileges of the US, who knows what they could achieve. The privileges don’t make your legs the perfect length or height Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: The privileges don’t make your legs the perfect length or height And neither did slavery FFS lol, remind me of the records his old man or old lady set, what about his grandparents? You are seriously suggesting that it was slavery that gave him these biological traits when slavery was what, 15 generations max? If there is any biological advantages for Western Africans, it certainly predates slavery. Edited 4 hours ago by Seagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Seagull said: And neither did slavery FFS lol, remind me of the records his old man or old lady set, what about his grandparents? You are seriously suggesting that it was slavery that gave him these biological traits when slavery was what, 15 generations max? If there is any biological advantages for Western Africans, it certainly predates slavery. 54 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Bolt is regarded as the fastest human ever and no one will beat his records without chemical assistance . As he is the perfectly aligned human to conduct his sport . the idea of comparing him with a Kenyan who will come from a village where running is a cultural thing , is quite frankly ludicrous. read a book called “running with the Kenyans” and you’ll understand why . its a perfect Storm of physical attributes , the culture in an area of Kenya and the altitude In the case of bolt I haven’t made that case. as in the above post , he is genetically blessed to be the greatest sprinter ever no training will make that defecit up . you need to be of equal or greater physical ability to even get near the case of African American athletes in nfl / nba , which I discussed , Is another point entirely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: In the case of bolt I haven’t made that case. as in the above post , he is genetically blessed to be the greatest sprinter ever no training will make that defecit up . you need to be of equal or greater physical ability to even get near the case of African American athletes in nfl / nba , which I discussed , Is another point entirely Of course he's physically gifted but it's just random chance that he's the fastest man ever. It's not like he was bred down from a line of out and out athletes in the same way a champion greyhound is bred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Seagull said: Of course he's physically gifted but it's just random chance that he's the fastest man ever. It's not like he was bred down from a line of out and out athletes in the same way a champion greyhound is bred. If he had a twin who led exactly the same life and the same mindset but was two inches shorter who wins ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: If he had a twin who led exactly the same life and the same mindset but was two inches shorter who wins ? Who's saying different, but, again, he's just a freak outlier. He has a brother and sister, why aren't they prime athletes, they have the same genetics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago No it’s a genuine question, who would win? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said: No it’s a genuine question, who would win? Bolt, of course, because he holds a physical advantage over his sibling despite sharing the same genetics. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,812 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Seagull said: Bolt, of course, because he holds a physical advantage over his sibling despite sharing the same genetics. so why would some African punter from The west coast of Africa beat him with inferior eugenic capability ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 371 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: so why would some African punter from The west coast of Africa beat him with inferior eugenic capability ? I'm not saying they would beat him, who can truly know, but, he is of the same genetic ancestry as those from West Africa, who on the population level happen to be blessed with more fast twitch muscle fibres than say you or I for example. He doesn't have better or worse genetics than them at the base level, he just has great physical attributes and has been raised to be an athlete by one of the most competitive nations in sprinting history. Edited 2 hours ago by Seagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,721 Posted 43 minutes ago Report Share Posted 43 minutes ago It’s years of training chasing Bob Geldof’s food trucks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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