dodger 3,587 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chid said: Funnily enough my mate said the same about the street Rochdale used to be a nice old town but absolutely f****d now so its nice to see didos post n yeh I must of been down a r street thousands of times n never even thought of were the name came from or heard anyone else from there mention it which is a shame.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 The church has quite a lot of links to knights Templar. Indeed one of the modern KT orders recently used the church for some meeting. I was thinking how sad it was that the church is now surrounded by foreigners....then it occurred to me that the knights Templar would probably feel at home there....an island of Christianity surrounded by Muslim hordes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, dodger said: Rochdale used to be a nice old town but absolutely f****d now so its nice to see didos post n yeh I must of been down a r street thousands of times n never even thought of were the name came from or heard anyone else from there mention it which is a shame.. It's unbelievable really. Roslyn chapel in Scotland has made a fortune since it's mention in Dan brown's book....and there's fck all there....one apprentices column and a bit of a story. Honestly we had a two hour tour of this church and the guide never stopped talking and pointing out symbols and hidden meanings. It's an absolute treasure trove.... Indeed we actually spotted a few hidden things that the guide didn't know about, hidden masonic symbols etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Some carved vines with the words "am the vine, ye are the branches" The rest of the prayer is "He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit.” This is a prayer used in one of the masonic Christian side orders....might be holy royal arch. Buzz Aldrin said this prayer on the moon, even though it had been agreed that no religious elements would be part of the moon landing. Buzz was a freemason and a member of lodge of tranquility, a lodge made up of astronauts! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,780 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: It's unbelievable really. Roslyn chapel in Scotland has made a fortune since it's mention in Dan brown's book....and there's fck all there....one apprentices column and a bit of a story. Honestly we had a two hour tour of this church and the guide never stopped talking and pointing out symbols and hidden meanings. It's an absolute treasure trove.... Indeed we actually spotted a few hidden things that the guide didn't know about, hidden masonic symbols etc. Dido who organises the tours ? My mate would be Interested in that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,780 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, dodger said: Rochdale used to be a nice old town but absolutely f****d now so its nice to see didos post n yeh I must of been down a r street thousands of times n never even thought of were the name came from or heard anyone else from there mention it which is a shame.. I'm from up the road in Oldham. Sure all the places round there used to be nice till all the foreigners moved in 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Last ones. The spiral staircase. I've been up quite a few of these in churches, all seem to curve to the left as you go up them, rather than to the right as you would expect. If they curve right an attacker must hold his sword in his left hand to fight his way up them while a defender can fight down with his right, hence all spiral staircases in castles have a right-handed curve...and almost all other staircases follow this tradition. In churches it seems to me they are always left-handed.... I don't know if it's a 'thing' or just chance in the ones I've visited. Also a photo of the churches original mound, built to the same height and size of Solomons temple on temple mount in Jerusalem. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chid said: I'm from up the road in Oldham. Sure all the places round there used to be nice till all the foreigners moved in I wonder if most towns are going to the dogs mate.. I have to say tho as I don't want to be a hypocritic that some of my family came here from the Ukraine after ww2 but they difmdnt have any choice as couldn't go back but it waw different then they worked opening cafes etc so I can't condem women n children coming here that genuinely need help but so many coming here now for the wrong reasons it is scary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chid said: Dido who organises the tours ? My mate would be Interested in that https://m.(!64.56:886/StEdmundsFalinge 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Chid said: I'm from up the road in Oldham. Sure all the places round there used to be nice till all the foreigners moved in St John's in Oldham 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: St John's in Oldham It just shows what is happening ie mosques are appearing all over at record level yet many churches seem to be either stood empty n left, knocked down or turned into apartments or turned into mosques? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,876 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 What a fantastic post mate !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 8 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: What a fantastic post mate !! Cheers I thought I'd get the pisss taken for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,857 Posted June 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Afterwards we had a roast dinner in Rochdale masonic hall. A brilliant hall with some good beers on the bar. Also a fantastic museum area attached stuffed full of interesting things. The quality of workmanship in the masters chairs always blows me away. Also included is a photo of the masonic knights Templar regalia. The modern order of KT raises money and supports st John's eye hospital in the holy land. The St John Eye Hospital in Jerusalem is a charitable foundation of the Venerable Order of St John, the oldest charity in the world. The Hospital is located in East Jerusalem, and was founded in 1882. It treats all who seek its care, irrespective of race, creed or ability to pay. Treating upto 100,000 people a year. The United, Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta give considerable support to the Jerusalem Eye Hospital through its fund raising in Britain and across the world. ......and if you join you get a sword!!!! I'm joining this year! The swords they give you are a bit blunt so I'm hoping I can carry an SS officers sword I'm saving up for 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,470 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 keep them coming Dido 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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