Kanny! I'm At It Again!

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

  Bit less ambitious, this time. And a Lot more thought out! (I've been labelled a bit of an Over Thinker, and I have to admit, there's more than a grain of truth in that! )

In fact, I've been meticulously trying to envisage every fukking cut and screw of this one, all afternoon. At this rate, I might even touch a bit of wood in a week or two! Can't help it. I was so fukking useless, as a youngster. Couldn't make a wooden box. Now, I agonise and try to examine every move, from every angle.

Anyway; Window Shutters! Who doesn't think window shutters are the bollox? Proper, internal, folding ones. Not that decorative, external louvre shit people stick on their walls.

Walls are pissed, of course. So, straight away, I'm thinking a shimmed frame would look a bit like just that. Gap at the wall side. Possibility even of a twist? Nah!

Side walls measure, per foot, top to bottom: 33 3/8. 33 1/3. 34 1/16. 34 1/4. 34 3/8" See? Got me looking at a Trend Easy Scribe. To get the first vertical plank to fit into that shit, on that side.

Okay. My brain just fukking exploded! I'm off to see what someone else is saying to me, on another thread.

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

Thing is, Sid; I've already figured I'd like the shutters 'outside' a frame. Window. Frame. Shutters. Room. With me?

My thinking is that that'll be a more forgiving job. It'll also exclude any light / gaps around the outsides.

My plan is to cut the edges of the uprights / planks with mitred inner edges. Sort of " / " effort? Idea being that, again, when I close them, there's absolutely no way light will get through. No peeping either.

Leave those edges plain butts and there's always liable to be those annoying paper cuts of light in the morning.

That making sense?

 

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

Oh, yeah! Or ..... (Still bloody thinking it over, see?! Trying to shut the fukk down and go stare at Spooks!  ) If I shimmed the framing uprights; I could use quadrant beading to shield that crack

Hang the shutters to line up against that?

 

[Lenmcharristar 10,545]

If your wanting the light kept out then youll need to make rebated shutters so they overlap and stop the light coming through, you can make them bifold or just 2 singles that close into one another, if your trying to make them right then you need the right tools if you dont have the right tools then employ somebody who does, any door that closes into a rebate needs a 2 mm gap at the hinge side so you will need a foam/felt strip or specially designed hinge that closes tight, corner to corner is longer than end to end

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

Bifold it is, Len. I simply have no where for two fukk off great window doors to go, when opened. There's things already on the walls here. My reveals are deep enough to bury folded planks though.

I no longer have a router, so rebated planks are out. I don't want to just pay someone to do the job. Because, where's the fun in that? Not very Weber, is it?

Christ, what a dull existence I'd have, if I just sat here peeling off fifties as an army of younger guys in Snickers strides clattered about behind me

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

I've started!

Feeling quite chuffed with myself, really. Don't like to try and do too much, these days. Just give myself a nervous fukking breakdown. Had a cracking go at it though!

Here's the initial nightmare I faced; I have Three angles to contend with. I need to get a frame in This!  Might as well hand me a fukking Rubiks Cube!

1. Is a straight wall. Right angle to the window frame. 2. Angles in, from that wall to the window frame. 3. Slopes down. From the sill to the window frame. Bit of shimming to do there.

 

 

  Some of you Builder types, or Kanny, would probably sniff and have at it with the confidence born of years of experience. I had to stand and stare. Scratching my head. Scribbling on a pad. Basically Willing myself not to crack under the mental pressure!

This sure as hell isn't a cut in a bit of wood I'd consider making every day!

 

 

But, fukk me if it doesn't appear to be doing the job, thus far?

 

 

To this point, at least, everything seems to be going to plan. I think I have to cut a weird angled slice off the back corners of the uprights yet. Make them fit against both those bits of wall.

Circular saw tilts to accommodate such angles. So, that should be doable. Tackle that shit tomorrow though. Quite enough fukking excitement for one day!

And, yes, that's nominal " 2x2 ". Might, or might not strip that down to something smaller yet? As it is, it matches the window frame. Dunno.

I'm enjoying myself anyway. My fukking place. I'm the only one who has to live with it.

[kanny 21,886]

Get a square frame fixed in then scribe a architrave to the walls,  looks like your doing

[lurcherman 887 13,483]

1 hour ago, Ken's Deputy said:

I've started!

Feeling quite chuffed with myself, really. Don't like to try and do too much, these days. Just give myself a nervous fukking breakdown. Had a cracking go at it though!

Here's the initial nightmare I faced; I have Three angles to contend with. I need to get a frame in This!  Might as well hand me a fukking Rubiks Cube!

1. Is a straight wall. Right angle to the window frame. 2. Angles in, from that wall to the window frame. 3. Slopes down. From the sill to the window frame. Bit of shimming to do there.

 

 

  Some of you Builder types, or Kanny, would probably sniff and have at it with the confidence born of years of experience. I had to stand and stare. Scratching my head. Scribbling on a pad. Basically Willing myself not to crack under the mental pressure!

This sure as hell isn't a cut in a bit of wood I'd consider making every day!

 

 

But, fukk me if it doesn't appear to be doing the job, thus far?

 

 

To this point, at least, everything seems to be going to plan. I think I have to cut a weird angled slice off the back corners of the uprights yet. Make them fit against both those bits of wall.

Circular saw tilts to accommodate such angles. So, that should be doable. Tackle that shit tomorrow though. Quite enough fukking excitement for one day!

And, yes, that's nominal " 2x2 ". Might, or might not strip that down to something smaller yet? As it is, it matches the window frame. Dunno.

I'm enjoying myself anyway. My fukking place. I'm the only one who has to live with it.

Is that lard on the wall 

[DIDO.1 22,870]

3 hours ago, Ken's Deputy said:

I've started!

Feeling quite chuffed with myself, really. Don't like to try and do too much, these days. Just give myself a nervous fukking breakdown. Had a cracking go at it though!

Here's the initial nightmare I faced; I have Three angles to contend with. I need to get a frame in This!  Might as well hand me a fukking Rubiks Cube!

1. Is a straight wall. Right angle to the window frame. 2. Angles in, from that wall to the window frame. 3. Slopes down. From the sill to the window frame. Bit of shimming to do there.

 

 

  Some of you Builder types, or Kanny, would probably sniff and have at it with the confidence born of years of experience. I had to stand and stare. Scratching my head. Scribbling on a pad. Basically Willing myself not to crack under the mental pressure!

This sure as hell isn't a cut in a bit of wood I'd consider making every day!

 

 

But, fukk me if it doesn't appear to be doing the job, thus far?

 

 

To this point, at least, everything seems to be going to plan. I think I have to cut a weird angled slice off the back corners of the uprights yet. Make them fit against both those bits of wall.

Circular saw tilts to accommodate such angles. So, that should be doable. Tackle that shit tomorrow though. Quite enough fukking excitement for one day!

And, yes, that's nominal " 2x2 ". Might, or might not strip that down to something smaller yet? As it is, it matches the window frame. Dunno.

I'm enjoying myself anyway. My fukking place. I'm the only one who has to live with it.

Why not fit it where the number 1 is on your photo, put the frame on the square bit of wall? 

 

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

Dido; It's the width of the boards, see? Two pairs will fill the hole, when closed. They'll also 'stack' nicely when folded back.

That's the plan, anyway. I need to sleep on it now. Have a fresh look at it all tomorrow.

It's already since struck me that ~ If I aim to fit the boards face flush against the frame? Where do the fukking hinges go???

Now, your question has me thinking that, if I stripped an equal bit off each boards width? They'd still stack. But wouldn't be so far 'forward' / into the room, as it were.

But, that, of course, takes away from their width. Which brings us to the point that Sid's going inside the frame gives us an extra 4". Shit tons of room to bring the frame forward. Thus leaving it fixable to a relatively flat wall surface.

Certainly save all that bollox cutting off angular strips with the scary saw .....

See, now, why I take so long on these things? Second nature to our Kanny and Danny. Complete fukking riddle, to me!

I Do enjoy the challenge though

 

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

Well, the postman's been. Now, maybe, we can see some fukking progress?

 

[kanny 21,886]

45 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

Well, the postman's been. Now, maybe, we can see some fukking progress?

 

They are also great for cleaning  corking, silicone  off , they have the perfect  radius  corner  for the job

[Ken's Deputy 4,463]

I soon realised I'd never get this shit sorted without them. There's really just no room for finesse here. Brute force and butchery   I'll use quadrant beading to cover the worst of the atrocities.

Thing I'm trying to get my head round now is the painting, believe it or not! But, it's a hell of an issue.

If I fix the frame, unpainted? I'll be trying to cut in within a four inch gap, between the glass and it.

Should I then paint the frame wood first. Then start fixing it in place?

Absolute Bitch, to think of doing all that coating. Then, getting the paint out again, to do the shutters. But, I can't make those till I have the frame to work off

Why do I always find myself in these catch 22 situations over the most, seemingly, simple fukking things?!